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FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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One example I can remember from 10+ years ago was newegg. I don't recall ever really feeling like I got "duped" based on the many online reviews there. I think that sentiment was pretty well revered and not just my personal opinions of it. Everything was pretty well spot on from my experiences. That said, I have no idea how that would fair these days. I'll even go so far as to say back when Amazon was getting started…

It should be pointed out that current fake review issues are not just on fraudulent products. For instance Aukey has been caught by Amazon, but in my experience their products were pretty good, and they probably played the fake review game mainly due to everyone else playing it, and it became an arms race.

The whole advertising industry is an arms race.

Unless your product is so revolutionary or cheap you're gonna need marketing.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Hopefully the hammer will come down on The Amazons, not indicidual sellers on the platform. If Aliexpress wants to be a junk review haven, who cares?

Why would it come down on Amazon? They’re not writing fake reviews. Fake reviews are commissioned by sellers of shitty products. Sometimes to their competitors in false flag operations.

And those sellers are just paying for ambiguous marketing services and the fraudulent reviews just happen to get written by someone in another country, who received a small sum in Monero every now and then for some reason.

Where does the buck stop? Amazon directly benefits from having rosy reviews of The products sold on its platform and they don’t do enough to keep their sellers honest.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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The "fraud economy" was democratized in the last decade but it has always existed. Previously you needed to be rich, powerful, and well connected to have media companies cover your business/product. Now you can buy fake engagement, reviews, upvotes, etc with a few click so everyone does it. If you don't do it you will be outcompeted by the ones who do. I've experienced this myself. I tried buying ads and writing orga…

>>> The "fraud economy" was democratized in the last decade but it has always existed. Previously you needed to be rich, powerful, and well connected to have media companies cover your business/product. Now you can buy fake engagement, reviews, upvotes, etc with a few click so everyone does it. Yes. And this is a pattern we are seeing all over - thank you. It's it necessarily good or bad. just more open, democratic,…

The system is broken and everyone needs to cheat to participate. That’s bad - not some amoral democratized system

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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It should be pointed out that current fake review issues are not just on fraudulent products. For instance Aukey has been caught by Amazon, but in my experience their products were pretty good, and they probably played the fake review game mainly due to everyone else playing it, and it became an arms race.

The cynical take Aukey was taken out because they had good products and good reputation in a high margin category that Amazon wanted for their house brand to play a bigger role in.

Today i was looking for a nice gan usb c charger, surprise, an AmazonBasics charger was one of the first result and the only recognizable brand.

And the first, promoted, comment/ratings is from a guy who received the product for free in exchange for a review.

https://www.amazon.fr/AmazonBasics-One-Port-Charger-Tablets-...

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Hopefully the hammer will come down on The Amazons, not indicidual sellers on the platform. If Aliexpress wants to be a junk review haven, who cares?

Why would it come down on Amazon? They’re not writing fake reviews. Fake reviews are commissioned by sellers of shitty products. Sometimes to their competitors in false flag operations.

Amazon is criminally negligent at least, and I'd say enabling the deception in practice. They do scummy things like censoring (rejecting) legitimate negative reviews and letting sellers reassign positive reviews from a product to a completely different one.

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Consumer Reports was (and still is!) so trusted because it is the one publication that lacks the usual conflicts of interest that every other publication has.

The Wirecutter (now part of NY Times) is another that doesn't accept freebie products, if I recall. They do use affiliate links, so they have incentive to want you to buy _something_, but no incentive to give any particular brand or model a biased review.

Except when they drop a product from their recommended list when they don’t want to participate in an affiliate program: https://www.xdesk.com/wirecutter-standing-desk-review-pay-to...

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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There's a whole fraud economy that has emerged in the last decade or so. Its existence has done deep harm to social trust, in my opinion. It extends far beyond just fake reviews of course; it reaches deep into the corrupt business practices and politicians/governments around the world.

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Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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Generally I'd say product reviews are one of those ideas like passwords that work but don't survive introduction to the general public and mass use. The problems of authenticity are obvious, but I've also noticed that people who rely on word of mouth from their friends and colleagues are generally happier. And why wouldn't they be? A colleague tells you this e.g. monitor is perfect for your line of work so you get it…

> one of those ideas like passwords that work but don't survive introduction to the general public and mass use

What do you mean? Have I missed something?

Re: FTC Puts Hundreds of Businesses on Notice about Fake Reviews

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I share accounts (legally) with friends and my wife. How are we going to log in separately?

Forward the email ;-) Or just add an extra email to the account

Forwarding the email is not a good solution. I don’t want to be checking emails at all times just because someone wants to login somewhere.

Adding an extra email account is not always possible. The option is not provided.

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