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Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#171

I got rid of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp about 4 years ago. Facebook and Instagram was easy, but people who have WhatsApp really think you’re weird for not having it. Deleting WhatsApp, while annoying for me personally, has resulted in many people I know joining Signal or Telegram — the network effect can be broken by being belligerent. If you don’t want to have a conversation about why you deleted WhatsApp, si…

I don't understand how telegram is less immoral than Facebook.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#172
post #71

I got rid of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp about 4 years ago. Facebook and Instagram was easy, but people who have WhatsApp really think you’re weird for not having it. Deleting WhatsApp, while annoying for me personally, has resulted in many people I know joining Signal or Telegram — the network effect can be broken by being belligerent. If you don’t want to have a conversation about why you deleted WhatsApp, si…

>Deleting WhatsApp, [...], has resulted in many people I know joining Signal or Telegram — the network effect can be broken by being belligerent. This practical application of your advice depends on where a particular person sits in their social hierarchy . E.g. an influential person that's a "hub" or "connector" in their social circle can switch from WhatsApp to Signal ... or insist on email only ... or insist on no…

You aren't asking your contacts to delete WhatsApp as well in solidarity or to fully "switch", you are asking them to simply use Signal to communicate with you. If you mention you are uncomfortable using WhatsApp, and they aren't willing to use Signal to message you, they likely aren't worth talking to.

I deleted Facebook/Messenger awhile ago, and asked that people use Signal to communicate with me. All of the people I cared to speak to use Signal to message me, and many of them have used it for other purposes as well. That hasn't precluded them from using whatever they were using before. This only applies to the personal sphere of my life, conducting business with WhatsApp may be a different issue entirely.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

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post #106

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What if we made a Internet Standard for messaging and presence?

>What if we made a Internet Standard for messaging and presence? That's a wonderful idea. In fact, we've had such a standard since 1999 (protocol codified in 2004[0]) It's called XMPP[1] [0] https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3920.txt [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP

Not only that, but a lot of closed messaging platforms were originally built on XMPP.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#174

I got rid of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp about 4 years ago. Facebook and Instagram was easy, but people who have WhatsApp really think you’re weird for not having it. Deleting WhatsApp, while annoying for me personally, has resulted in many people I know joining Signal or Telegram — the network effect can be broken by being belligerent. If you don’t want to have a conversation about why you deleted WhatsApp, si…

Maybe I'm just old or out of it? I've never used WhatsApp and don't see why I would need any chat apps other than just normal texting on my iPhone.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#175
The best options are: - never sign up in the first place - give entirely fake data, as much as possible - change data to rubbish data afterward - just never log in again, I am pretty sure dormant accounts are the worst, nothing to collect, nothing to track, no ads can be placed there in a meaningful way.

A dormant account with rubbish data is the best way to hinder their profits.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#176
post #171

I got rid of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp about 4 years ago. Facebook and Instagram was easy, but people who have WhatsApp really think you’re weird for not having it. Deleting WhatsApp, while annoying for me personally, has resulted in many people I know joining Signal or Telegram — the network effect can be broken by being belligerent. If you don’t want to have a conversation about why you deleted WhatsApp, si…

I don't understand how telegram is less immoral than Facebook.

Because it doesn’t collect personal data to sell to advertisers.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#177

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There's no reason to believe it's a "full" account delete even in the countries covered by the GDPR considering they brazenly breach the GDPR with their "consent" flow.

From data modelling point of view it's a challenge to wipe the user data since it will affect a social graph. And there're different strategies to handle corner cases (e.g. how to deal with reactions/replies on "deleted" comments or with reactions on your photos or your reactions on different news, mark as deleted and wipe the content or completely remove nested graph). And it actually makes user tracking much harder…

This all seems to be problems for them surveillance capitalist, and not the user.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#179

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Move to a European country and Sue there for GDPR violation.

You don't need to live in the EU/EEA to invoke GDPR rights. Case in point: the UK authority upheld a US resident's GDPR claim against Cambridge Analytica (and yes, Facebook was involved). https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/news-and-events/news-and-bl...

What do you mean “upheld”? The story in your link describes the company refusing to comply and then ends. It’s true that you don’t have to be currently living in the EU to invoke your GDPR rights if you’re an EU citizen traveling abroad, or if you’re a foreign citizen traveling or residing in the EU. GDPR applies to companies that market to people in the EU or do business in the EU. BUT - GDPR is an EU law, it does not apply to US citizens living in the US, which is why the company in your story was legally entitled to refuse to comply.

Re: How to permanently delete your Facebook account

#180

Had to temporarily whitelist the page and turn on JS to view (there wasn't even a message saying I needed JS). Then since I am in Spain, I got a bunch of Spanish, when I'm an English speaker. This is bad UX. I expected better from FB.

This is intentional.

They don't want you to be able to do this, so they make pages unusable.

I tried to delink Facebook and Instagram recently. They make you re-sign into FB via Insta... and it refused to sign me in (I was 100% using the correct password and tried many times). The sign-in just kept failing, until I was like "This is intentional, and Facebook will not let me de-link the apps." and gave up.

Really time for the FTC and DOJ to take Facebook all the way to trial for this sort of stuff. No more settlements!

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