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Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#172

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Time is never free my friend. There’s always a cost model at play.

So much goodness out there exists in spite of this. Local model railroad clubs is one that comes to mind. I’d rather that than Walmart, which has mastered its cost model.

Yes. Time invested given for free at the expense of other endeavors. I’m not arguing against doing any of these things. Just simply stating that time = money. I’d rather spend my money/time on model railroad building too. z scale ftw.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#173

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> illegal movies What's illegal movies?

Here's an example of a movie declared illegal in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magnitsky_Act_%E2%80%93_Be...

The Wikipedia article doesn't mention any banning, and I can buy the film on Amazon.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#174

I don't understand the economics of this at all. Video distribution is bandwidth heavy. If you're running your own peer tube instance the server costs are surely going to outstrip any revenue you make from it. if users have to carry that load and seed your stuff they'll have to waste their own storage. What is the incentive for anyone to do this? Exacerbated by the fact that the entire thing mostly seems to attract p…

Don't understand how this is the top comment, hello HN backdoors?

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#175

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That's the thing: It doesn't have to pay off and it doesn't have to generate revenue. That's not its goal. It is not a business model. If we want good content und independence from YouTube, perhaps it is time to see, that it might cost us a tiny bit of money each month, to uphold our freedom. One rented server can easily support many users, each of those can chip in to finance renting the server. It can be done trans…

What about Nebula or curiousitystream?

Those are commercial alternatives, with curated content. So creators can get paid directly from the subscription income. Clearly it serves a somewhat different community than the fediverse. Personally, that seems okay. There should be room for both things to exist.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#176
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PeerTube does not have enough bandwidth to work. Try PeerTube. Here's a cat video. Posted 1 week ago, 38 views, duration 10 seconds. https://peertube.tv/w/tsvCimhEaLSTZD16B3gqBQ Even as the only watcher, and with gigabit Internet both ways at my end, it stuttered, then stalled completely. For short videos, you'd be better off putting them on a shared hosting site as .mp4 files. Peer to peer video hosting is just not…

300mbit connection here, US east coast: Stuttery mess

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

#177

One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. For Twitter-like applications this might be ok. But for something like YouTube, I definitely want to browse the content a bit before signing up.

> One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. That's because their “landing pages” (project advertisement websites) aren't instances. The home page of any instance (e.g. https://diode.zone/ ) will show you the content visible from that instance.

> That's because their “landing pages” [...] aren't instances

That is a technically correct answer, but it misses the point: they're asking users to sign up before they even see the product. They're expecting that the premise of the site alone is enough to entice users to join, which is very optimistic. It would be better to immediately direct the user to content, and then provide reasons for why they should get an account. At a high level, that's what YouTube does.

Re: Bye YouTube, Hello PeerTube [video]

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One thing I really dislike about Fediverse services is that their landing pages are always about joining/signing up. For Twitter-like applications this might be ok. But for something like YouTube, I definitely want to browse the content a bit before signing up.

I've just opened the YouTube frontpage from a private window to see what it's like. There is literally nothing on there I'd want to click on. I think the value of YouTube is in 1) being able to link to a video 2) subscribing to creators and having them in your feed and 3) related videos. But none of that is the kind of browsing around you can do from the frontpage.

Not sure what you mean, the homepage of YouTube immediately shows you a grid of videos and an interface for exploring other categories/genres if they're not interesting to you.
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