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Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by hcurtiss »

bink wrote: post #57
hcurtiss wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had .email for a while. Many shopping sites wouldn't actually let you use the address, presumably given some filter assuming that "email" was a fake address. Because my name ends with "ss", I switched over to .es, which conveniently is a country TLD (Spain). That's worked very well, though occasionally I'll get spam in Spanish, which cracks me up.

I wonder how well these new TLDs work for custom email if you use them with Google Workspaces / Google Apps for Domains or another reputable email hosting service. I've been using a custom domain (though a .net) for decades now and since I moved to Google Apps years ago I haven't had an issue being seen as spam.

I use Fastmail. Delivery has been fine. My only challenge with .email was that some services wouldn't take the address as a valid email address.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by cortesoft »

Twisell wrote: post #80

Got a nice .xyz domain mainly for mail with SPF,DKIM correctly set up and tested against multiple validators. No big issues so far except for the HR department of a potential new gig which can painlessly mail me@mydomain.xyz about job interviews BUT never get my replies back. I don't who to blame more in this mess: - Me for playing smartass instead of using a @gmail.com because they impose the rules so everybody comp…

> (maybe my reluctance to encourage this broken system explain my recklessness)

This is a great example of a Collective Action problem. Everyone would be better off if we could break the gmail domination of email policy, but as an individual you will have zero effect on gmail's dominance and only suffer the pain of not being a part of the system.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by dane-pgp »

xenocyon wrote: post #169
krono wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blocking of messages/emails and blanket email server/domain/extension blacklisting is the same as a postal service not delivering mail to or from a particular entity/street/town. Doing so silently and without a valid and case-specific reason should not be legally allowed. Edit: Added "street/town" to analogy, and "case-specific" before reason

As a consumer, I can see both sides of this. On the one hand, I like energetic spam blocking without fear of legal liability, even if there are occasionally a few false positives. On the other, I do not want ISPs/telecoms to be the arbiters of traffic (net neutrality). The net-neutral solution is for ISPs/telecoms to not spam-block, but rather have spam-blocking be an optional, additional, layer that the consumer can…

> the consumer would not be protected by default.

Then make it set to "on" by default, and if more than 50% of customers switch it off then change the default.

I also think that this should be a requirement for social media. You should be able to opt out of separate filters for "spam", "misinformation", "breast-feeding", and whatever other reasons a social network has for banning legally protected speech.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by donatj »

I have had similar experiences with corporate firewalls blocking my .app domain.

I got in a painfully stupid argument with a middle-age IT admin “we don’t want to our employees installing apps”

It’s not an app, you don’t install it, it’s a “WebApp”, it’s just a freaking fancy website who’s domain ends in .app - lol, this was like three years ago and just thinking about it is getting me heated

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by peter_l_downs »

vmception wrote: post #159
tombert wrote: post #27

I was pretty excited when ICANN opened up a bunch of new domain extensions, but it does sometimes feel like "all these extensions are great if you don't plan on using them". It was pretty cool that I managed to buy a bunch of domains like . , but to be honest I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything. For that matter, I think that (somewhat ironically) `my-last-name.email` would not be taken…

crypto space is making use of the new ICANN approved TLDs pretty rapidly their customers are on discord, twitter, telegram and wechat so email delivery is not a factor the entire sites and revenue drivers are entirely client side (with the "servers" being the smart contract methods stored on the nearest blockchain nodes, this has only one initial upload cost but functions similarly to lambda functions except the user…

not sure why you're being downvoted -- one of the coolest parts of the web3 world is that you don't need a server, you just need static web hosting. This means that besides blockchain network / router speed (most transactions get broadcast through a few friendly or public nodes for each network, and each network has different transaction speeds) interacting with a web3 application is often extremely fast. The best web3 apps use cloudflare or some other equivalent and deliver static html/js/css from the edge https://twitter.com/simplyianm/status/1437506136568041472?s=...

And, yes, a lot of the new web3 projects use alternative tlds because they're cheap and catchy. They also tend to use food-related nouns as project/coin names because branding is hard and a lot of them haven't been used by companies in the past.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by peter_l_downs »

This is a total shame because .xyz is extremely catchy and, in my mind, could be the new .com in a few years. All the other TLDs are hard to remember -- in my experience, people will ask "was it my.website or mywebsite.com?" but if you tell someone "it's mywebsite.xyz" they always get it right.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by 3836293648 »

tombert wrote: post #27

I was pretty excited when ICANN opened up a bunch of new domain extensions, but it does sometimes feel like "all these extensions are great if you don't plan on using them". It was pretty cool that I managed to buy a bunch of domains like . , but to be honest I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything. For that matter, I think that (somewhat ironically) `my-last-name.email` would not be taken…

You're obviously American. .com is not the only acceptable domain. Each country's tld is perfectly fine for anything in said country. In fact, it's really weird when companies here in Sweden use a .com domain instead of a .se

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by callalex »

tiffanyh wrote: post #115
humanistbot wrote: post #2

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

I wish the Telco's did MORE filtering given the huge amount of SMS spam I get since Twilio has turned this channel into a positive ROI for spammers. (1st biggest spam channel being email, which surprise/surprise - Twilio also dominates via SendGrid)

How did you determine that these messages are through Twilio and not one of the dozens of cheap unscrupulous knockoffs? This is very easily identified, and you are are slinging serious accusations.

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by dane-pgp »

tombert wrote: post #27

I was pretty excited when ICANN opened up a bunch of new domain extensions, but it does sometimes feel like "all these extensions are great if you don't plan on using them". It was pretty cool that I managed to buy a bunch of domains like . , but to be honest I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything. For that matter, I think that (somewhat ironically) `my-last-name.email` would not be taken…

> I really don't see myself using my .blackfriday domain for anything.

Well, there's about a 1 in 7 chance that it would be the perfect domain to host your obituary. I'm sure you could make a smart watch app which detects when/whether to make the site publicly visible.

(I apologise if this dark humour offends anyone.)

Re: The Perils of an .xyz Domain

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Post by SilverRed »

foofoo4u wrote: post #137
humanistbot wrote: post #2

> One surprising side effect of having a .xyz domain is that the mere inclusion of .xyz inside of a text message will result in a silent delivery failure for many providers. This is wild to me. Tested it out myself and I couldn't send an SMS with a spot.xyz link to/from Google Voice T-Mobile. And no "failed delivery" notice either, just a silent failure. And yet I still get so many texts that are obviously spam or ph…

A lot of systems block anything by default that isn't standard. For example, if you happen to own a domain to serve as your email that doesn't end in .com, .edu, .gov, then many systems will instantly invalidate you saying you don't have a valid email when in reality you do. A lot of companies or programmers don't seem to realize that its 2021 where we have hundreds of domain extensions to choose from.

I think this mostly applies to TLDs with more than 3 letters. I have email on a .me and a .red and I have never had anything reject me.
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