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Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds

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Re: Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds

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Post by 2AThrowaway »

chmod600 wrote: post #90

I've only known one person to use a gun in self defense. She didn't fire it.

throwaway for the obvious reasons... take this as you wish.

I am a person who has drawn their licensed handgun in self-defense, twice, separated by ~25 years and hundreds of miles. One an attempted robbery or interrupted break-in in a rear parking lot by two men who probably thought I had access to the building, the second by a group of three that split and approached quickly from two sides on a city street. In neither case did I need to fire. I had situational awareness that these people were coming toward me to do some kind of harm and the fact that I was absolutely prepared to kill in my own self-defense caused these would be criminals to stop and run away.

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Post by jvanderbot »

bm3719 wrote: post #106

Excellent. There's no reason defensive gun buyers should be demographically different from the general population. It's understandable that gun sales for hunting or other activities might show differences, but we all have the same personal security needs. Side note: I'm one of the people here with a large collection of firearms. One thing to realize when you see the statistic that the US has more firearms than people…

Your standard of combat is obscenely high. Any weapon that can kill an animal can be used quite well against humans in defense.

Would they be standard issue arms for a modern army? Irrelevant.

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Post by ben_w »

GiorgioG wrote: post #158
watwut wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the person meant contemporary France.

How many revolutions has France had in contemporary times?

The same number as the USA, for any reasonable definition of “contemporary”.

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Post by bananabreakfast »

sharklazer wrote: post #53

Everyone should own a gun, and most more than 1. If we were to maintain public education (which... just no, please) gun education should be standard.

You sound like a gun industry rep.

"Everyone should own a car" is what a car lobbyist says. "Everyone should own a gun" is what a gun lobbyist says.

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Post by [deleted] »

motohagiography wrote: post #50

I suspect that those women are realizing they can't reasonably rely on men for any kind of protection, as any kind of physical protection is basically illegal, taboo, and effectively bred out of the middle class now anyway, so it makes sense more women would take responsibility themselves. Gun purchases also correlate to perceptions of changes in social order as well, where there's a "get 'em before they're gone!" cy…

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Post by philwelch »

pope_meat wrote: post #146
nradov wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you consider this fine? I don't think anyone benefits from a breakdown in civil order and the rule of law. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/7/2/21310109/ch... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53491223

CHOP was fine. Walked through there multiple times when it was happening because I was curious, it really does appear to me like media blowing things out of proportion for clicks/views.

Aside from the half dozen people they shot, I guess.

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Post by tengbretson »

watwut wrote: post #135
Throwawayaerlei wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Furthermore, i find US fascination with their theoretical ability to fight their government with small arms adorable and misguided. So did our Deep State as they lost a twenty year fight against the Taliban. Who immediately started seizing the people's guns upon capturing Kabul. not even counting accidents and suicides which are also made worse by the high availability of guns for everyone The suicide statistics from…

Comparing Taliban to individual gun owners is next level absurd.

Our F-150 driving rednecks would never be caught dead in those Toyota Hiluxs the taliban uses

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Post by yongjik »

chmod600 wrote: post #73

There's something admirable about the idea that a government would not take away all the guns. The idea that people should not have to give up all of their ability to fight. The idea that people should not be entirely dependent on police for their defense. And the idea that physically weaker people (often women) can defend themselves against the strong. Does this idea work? Surprisingly well. If you had to guess the…

I have trouble understanding how guns would defend an American's freedom. See, it's as if the US military trains soldiers how to hide in the Appalachian, raid local villages, and steal food and ammunition from trucks, because if a non-specified enemy conquers the US and its troops are marching down the streets from Sacramento to Boston you need these skills to hide and keep fighting.

Except that, if you're at this stage, you have failed. The whole freaking point of having a military is to not let it happen. So the US military instead trains its soldiers to fly bombers and read satellite photos, because these are the skills that make you win wars before it runs you over.

If the government has turned your enemy and its troops are marching down the street ready to murder your family, you have already failed to defend your freedom. What were you doing in the meantime?

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Post by bananabreakfast »

sharklazer wrote: post #65

If it ain’t censorship, I don’t know but this went from front page to page 3 in 5 minutes or less. This is why I’m growing more and more discontent with HN. Either it was unpopular with the crowd, or the mods. Either way, though, f** manipulated discourse and whoever is instrumentally responsible.

Whenever things don't go your way, make sure to claim censorship at every possible opportunity...
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