Large corporations will always win because they have the power and might. Remote work will just allow them to hire cheaply from low income locations and what employees are going to do about it.
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
I entered the workforce in a very different time with very different tools which makes it hard for me to think through the counterfactual: "What if I had had to be remote when I first started working?" But I think it would have been very difficult and I might have been less successful as a result. Even today, I feel like I'm cruising a bit on existing in-person relationships. (I was large remote pre-COVID but I still…
We’re fully remote and have hired a few engineers out of college. They’re very independent and productive. Who knows if they’d be even better if they worked onsite, but I doubt it.
As I say, very different time. I didn't even really have email prior to entering the workplace and, while there were conference calls to manufacturing sites and the like and other (frequent) phone calls, it was a very in-person swing by offices/desks/labs sort of environment. But that's obviously different from what a fresh engineering grad has been exposed to.
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#173This makes complete sense – just another example of power law dynamics of the internet. Short-term, we're going to see companies pursue a remote model in order to attract talent. This will be great for employees; live in Colorado, go on hikes and have a great lifestyle while commanding a SF salary! Longer-term, companies are going to realize that (except for the top ~10% of performers, who will always command a high…
Agreed. My company (Pinterest) recently opened "new offices" for engineering talent, but they were in Mexico City and elsewhere.
The idea that we'll be competing with other US-based workers is wrong.
In the long run our remote-work "more freedom" fantasy will come to an end.
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#174https://archive.is/Vltrp They attempt to answer "How will this affect the average tech worker?" ... with ... "In June, Google told rank-and-file employees it would reduce the pay of those who choose to work remotely or move farther from the office." and they then say "Should this worry the most in-demand engineers and product management? Probably not." They finish with "But in the long term, remote work’s promise is…
How many is "Some", because the article makes it sound like it's a career option for all fitness people. It sounds like it is as rare as being a TV fitness person
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#175The only winners of remote work will be those who are self disciplined enough to get work done without outside supervision or motivation. That goes for every single field that does remote work - learning, teaching, Knowledge work etc. But let’s be honest - some people need the motivation of a workplace — and that’s ok! We are all different. Im somewhere in the middle… love working from home but it’s easy to get distr…
> enough to get work done without outside supervision or motivation.
Sounds like a business opportunity
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#176The Winners of Remote Work don't live in the United States. The pandemic has accelerated globalization.
The winner of globalization was the US though
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#177Honest question: Why would a company pay an US based engineer a high salary when they can get a team overseas equally or even more qualified (whatever metrics you prefer to use: leetcode count, school ranking, GitHub stars, etc...) for the same amount of money or less? I understand if you are Raedon/Being/... Wouldn't remote work at least in the US force local engineer to accept less money for their work?
Are the wages of US tech workers skyrocketing because they switch jobs often? If so, remote workers can switch even faster. The most capable workers had already emigrated to US, so the question is, has the pool of workers expanded more than the pool of competitive jobs?
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
To use an example from the parent post, local, cyclist spin trainers are losing, since people are simply using the Pelaton trainers at home, rather than going to an "in person" spin class. The local, small time trainer can't compete with a celebrity/model trainer. Similar to how TV and movies hurt local theatres. In the end, it is more efficient, but there are "losers".
I'm not convinced a lot of these trends stick post-COVID. A lot of people like the in-person part of the spin class and probably would prefer it to the highly-paid video pro. That said, behaviors will have changed for a lot of things over the course of a couple of years. People have developed new habits. Not all of that--including going into an office five days a week in many cases--are going to just reset.
Just want to note that pre-COVID, not many people would even have considered not-in-person equivalents to things that they thought they preferred in-person. When I say "not even considered", in many cases I mean "were not even aware they existed".
It might be that their pre-COVID apparent preferences remain their actual preference post-COVID, but I would not take that for granted.
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It's not impossible I guess, you will need to find people who know U.S law well. If you're talking about accountancy that's pretty complex stuff. You can outsource the grunt work easily (going over Excel sheets, that has been ousourced for decades already) but the substantial work no, I don't think it's that easy.
I don't think it's easy either. There are smart people everywhere in the world. If these people could be easily paid and could get their results validated by a local expert, there would be a lot of financial incentive for these smart people to learn the US law, for example, and create case files for the local experts to evaluate and sign on. Would it cut the need for the local experts? No. Would it reduce their numbe…
Would it result in the "superstar" local experts (to use TFA's terminology) making huge amounts of money? Almost certainly.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Law and accountancy is much harder to outsource than programming. You usually have to be U.S certified so thats pretty much protected.
You could set up a US Law school in another country
The school is less of a problem than the state-by-state bar exam, I believe.