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It's satirical
What is it satirizing? Or is this just a post-hoc "its just a joke bro. Y u mad?" Regardless, its your code, do what you want.
Ding ding ding. There is no satire to be found here.
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Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://grammarist.com/phrase/on-a-lark/ The “lark” in the idiom “on a lark” has nothing to do with a simile to birds. It derives from an old Norse word which means “to play.” https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lark#Etymology_2 Using correct terms helps to communicate effectively. What is wrong with promoting correct use of English? I always appreciate it when my coworkers promote correct programming idioms to me, it hel…
> Using correct terms helps to communicate effectively. What is wrong with promoting correct use of English? As has been mentioned elsewhere, language is constantly changing. It isn't even that slow of a process. As a result the vast majority of linguists view linguistics as a descriptive rather than prescriptive science. The "prescriptive" approach to linguistics is much more common among teachers but hopefully that…
> prescriptive approaches to language have a long history of being used to enforce class, ethnicity and geography based discrimination.
This is a sloppy argument. Nothing about teaching correct English enforces discrimination and in fact it does the opposite by leveling the playing field.
If one day teachers stopped teaching grammar, that would only worsen the linguistic shift across the races and classes, allowing them to more easily discriminate between each other.
Even if you want to erase the idea that there is a “correct” English, the inevitable presence of the differences in speech will regress the concept to “my tribe’s English” and eventually “my tribe’s language.”
Teaching and promoting a standard and correct English promotes a more liberal society. I’m puzzled that sloppy arguments like the one you made above continually permeate culture when it only takes a few logical steps to see how it results in an outcome opposite to what you want.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
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"I did it as a lark" has been used as an expression for a long time already, well over a century. To give a few examples, https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Boy_s_Own_Annual/X7... "Sure as goodness, I thought you both did it as a lark", from a book published in 1895, so it's reasonable to assume it was already in some level of common idiom by then. It's unlikely The Boys Own Annual was trail blazing in its use…
A few exceptional Google books searches does not prove the rule. Using correct English increases the chances that others will understand what we are saying, improving the chances of accomplishing our goals. What is wrong with helping others in that?
Does anyone actually use "as a lark" to mean the action was done while being a bird? Common usage these days is for "as a lark" to be effectively synonymous with "on a lark"; thus it would be more useful/helpful for people to be familiar with this variation of the common idiom.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems that you're not interested in suing anyone over this. However, you still don't give people permission to use, not even in small throwaway tests. Which is fair. But your blog post[0] language suggests that you are okay with and even incentivizes people trying this out (even if trying it out might be technically illegal, because it infringes your rights). I think you should have mentioned something about the l…
Pretty funny right?
Not really. The JSLint license is funny because objecting to the "The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." requirement looks like an admission of malintent. Doubly funny that it compelled IBM to ask for explicit permission to use JSLint for evil.
Your project, on the other hand, just looks like it was designed to waste people's time. Congrats I guess?
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
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Which part and in what way? Clearly the blog post is not satire, since the method works, and the license cannot be satire as it seems like it would be legally sufficient to prevent people from using it, which is exactly the stated purpose of the license. It's also implied that the author has received requests to change the license so others can use the package, which have been denied. The author even went so far as t…
Your reaction is the joke
Hilarious.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#176I love that all the discussion here is about the license I wrote and not about the actual project, which is a completely terrible idea and something I created as a lark. Why did I not spell this out in the blog post? For my own amusement. I also think it shows that licenses really don't matter all that much as some people think, they are not computer code.
I'm glad that I can now say that I've contributed Windows support to a project which I probably violated the license of while working on :P
By technicality, the license has been violated by quite a large variety of corporations: Microsoft, AWS, Heroku, Bilibili, Baidu, Apache, Arduino, etc. [0~6], and much much more [7]
Crazy.
[0]: https://github.com/microsoft/bedrock/blob/a0ab244a80a94133cb...
[1]: https://github.com/awslabs/karpenter/pull/609
[2]: https://github.com/heroku/java-buildpack/blob/master/go.mod#...
[3]: https://github.com/bilibili/overlord/blob/b524449801b5411583...
[4]: https://github.com/baidu/openrasp/blob/f992962207bec063eda6f...
[5]: https://github.com/apache/camel-k/issues/2067
[6]: https://github.com/arduino/arduino-cli/issues/740
[7]: https://sourcegraph.com/search?q=context:global+%28bou.ke%7C...
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#177I never imagined that there would be a license designed so that only copyright violators have access to your project, but I support it and will probably use it. Any project I write that I think would be useful but is bad and I would never want to see shitting up Debian repos might get this. I like a license that says that I reserve the right to sue whoever I feel like suing. If you use it, make sure I don't feel like…
One of the best things about people in software is (in my perception) they tend to want to share and share alike with open source and open licenses. Paid licenses also make sense to me, but it really bums me out in a way that I can't fully atriculate that the "neener neener" license is also apparently appealing to some people.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
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It's misleading to present the project as being for use by others and then forbid any use in the legal print?
Is it misleading to present a project as free and then have the (A)GPL license? Here I thought it was free, now suddenly there are all these conditions... The "legal print" in this case is five lines long, written in (contrary to most licenses) very plain english, located in the root of the repository, in a file named 'LICENSE.md'. It's not exactly hidden where a reasonable person might overlook it. "We didn't know"…
Yes. It is misleading to advertise software as Free and Open when it's actually Copy Left.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Using correct terms helps to communicate effectively. What is wrong with promoting correct use of English? As has been mentioned elsewhere, language is constantly changing. It isn't even that slow of a process. As a result the vast majority of linguists view linguistics as a descriptive rather than prescriptive science. The "prescriptive" approach to linguistics is much more common among teachers but hopefully that…
> prescriptive approaches to language have a long history of being used to enforce class, ethnicity and geography based discrimination. This is a sloppy argument. Nothing about teaching correct English enforces discrimination and in fact it does the opposite by leveling the playing field. If one day teachers stopped teaching grammar, that would only worsen the linguistic shift across the races and classes, allowing t…
Rant all you want, but if P.G.Wodehouse uses a phrase it's good enough for me.
Re: Project includes a dependancy that has a license that forbids its use
#180It's crazy to me that people would intentionally introduce monkey patching into a language where it's not supported.
I dont know how that could be surprising as sometimes monkey patching is the best (only?) way to do something.