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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by bdcravens »

codetrotter wrote: post #128
smoldesu wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they shouldn't charge $15/month for a product that's incomplete. The only reason I'm not the target audience here is because I won't use a subscription-based browser, much less one that has fewer features than my current browser. I respect people who build software, but you have to get pricing right if you want people to care. > I wonder what it is about hacker news that brings out this incessant negativity in…

> Maybe they shouldn't charge $15/month for a product that's incomplete How do you expect them to ever finish the browser if they don't have any income from working on it?

No matter what the industry or the product is, that's not the consumer's problem.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by oidar »

sauravmitra wrote: post #155
qwerty456127 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will. Thank you for doing a great job anyway. I don't actually feel angry or demand anything from you, although I might sound this way. I just expressed my thoughts which many people obviously share. May I, however, ask if there is a serious reason to require Big Sur instead of supporting Catalina, Mojave and High Sierra also? I understand you probably don't want to waste resources on actually supporting them but p…

We're using SwiftUI and WebKit features that were added quite recently (MacOS doesn't get nearly as much love from Apple as iOS). This keeps our product iteration cycle quite high, and the worry is having to implement cumbersome solutions if supporting previous OSs. I'll have to look into it again to see if I can go back just a bit maybe and assess how much time it would take to support those versions. We're a pretty…

I would have lobed to try this out as well, but I'm stuck in 32 bit land for the foreseeable future - so I am staying with Mojave.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by fishtoaster »

elpax wrote: post #14

I literally never post comments on HN but what is this product. Is this $15/month browser for MacOS ? Fancy browser with grouped tabs, split-screen and sharing but still just browser. I think I'm just too poor to understand. I hope that your product will succeed because then I will know that in this world you can sell ice to an eskimo.

It doesn't really matter whether it's a browser or not - what matters is the value it provides. I pay $15/mo for netflix even though I get some amount of free cable tv from my ISP. Google Analytics is free, but I use a paid competitor that I prefer more. There are a ton of free email clients, but I used a paid one because it has features I can't get in the free ones. None of those are "selling ice to an eskimo."

Likewise, there's nothing inherent to browsers that mean they always need to be free, just because the dominant ones currently are.

Now, that said, I don't think this product is worth anywhere near $15/mo to me, but maybe that'll change over time. A browser that actually makes me significantly faster at my work vs chrome/etc could easily be worth that much to me.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by qwerty456127 »

sauravmitra wrote: post #99
qwerty456127 wrote: post #21

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This makes me feel rickrolled. I clicked and only see a Mac version download link. The title should mention the platform if it's single-platform. In fact I even have a Mac but it's High Sierra and I'm not updating to Big Sur with all the questionable changes just to try a new browser.

Changed the title!

I can speculate this can actually attract even more of the target audience to you. Mac people probably feel more enthusiastic about Mac-specific software announcements and are steadier to go and take a look at something Mac-specific than at yet another generic browser. And for the conversion rate - this probably even is a serious boost.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by dwb »

MahyadGhassemi wrote: post #45
dwb wrote: post #38

I'm so, so in for browser modernisation, I really like the look of what you're doing, I'm a devoted vim addict, and I'll be trying the demo later. But honestly $15/month is extremely pushing it, to the point that I probably won't go for it. Presumably i[Pad]OS is on the roadmap?

Thanks for the comment and yes iOS and iPadOS are on the road map. In terms of pricing we are still workshoping this since we are a very young company (under a year still). Pricing isn’t set in stone, but we try to work with our users feedback.

Cool, thanks. Good luck in any case, I think there's a lot of potential in this area!

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

garyrob wrote: post #170

I’ve been using SigmaOS for the last half hour for my active work, after having gone through the tutorial. I quite like it. I can imagine that I may feel it’s worth the money, but I have to spend more time with it before I could know. I do want to mention that I ran into a couple of glitches (as I would expect with any such brand-new product). Somehow in using the Find function I got a freeze where I had to Force Qui…

Heya, really appreciate the product feedback!

For bugs, you can report them using the question mark at the bottom left of the app. Or join our Slack community :D

Super weird that the Find is freezing. If it was working, it would show how many matches it found when you press enter. That sounds like an urgent fix.

Great point regarding import! Will make sure the workspaces you import get added after the tutorial.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by sauravmitra »

oidar wrote: post #172
sauravmitra wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're using SwiftUI and WebKit features that were added quite recently (MacOS doesn't get nearly as much love from Apple as iOS). This keeps our product iteration cycle quite high, and the worry is having to implement cumbersome solutions if supporting previous OSs. I'll have to look into it again to see if I can go back just a bit maybe and assess how much time it would take to support those versions. We're a pretty…

I would have lobed to try this out as well, but I'm stuck in 32 bit land for the foreseeable future - so I am staying with Mojave.

Ah, what a shame. Hopefully I figure out a workaround to support Mojave :D

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Post by throwawayswede »

jayparth wrote: post #113
tusharpandey13 wrote: post #73

Honestly, this just seems like a cheap rip-off of Vivaldi. All of the features(yes, all of them) are already present in Vivaldi, including the split screen, tree style tabs, sync, global search, full keyboard support. Slapping some UI makeup on top of an already existing product does not warrant a hefty fee of $15 in my view. Also, I don't see any proof that my data is secure. For all I know, you guys will sell off m…

I wonder what it is about hacker news that brings out this incessant negativity in people. Have you considered that: - This product might only be a couple of months old and they have bigger plans for it over the next year? - The founders don't have all the answers and they're learning just as much as we are right now? - Even though YOU might not see enough value to warrant the price tag, there might be people (or bus…

Although I party agree with you in terms of tone, positivity for positivity's sake is also bad, if not worse. I saw the previous comment as constructive, although I might not phrase it like that myself, but to each their way. OP posted as Luanch HN to get feedback, not just praise. Previous commentator was not being negative or critical with no reason. Aggressive and baseless anti-toxicity is as bad as real toxic behavior. You're free to "love loving" things, but you can't make others conform to your lifestyle.
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