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Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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My shield updated to this the other day. I'm pretty furious about it, it's not a cheap device, and it's certainly not Google's. To be adding these "features" without asking, irrespective of whatever agreement between me, Nvidia or Google exists, is ridiculous. I know it's in whatever terms I, uh, "accepted", but there's just no escaping it in this day and age. Fortunately, I know how to use ADB and just installed ano…

Wouldn't a hosts file or a local DNS[1] or VPN[2][3] with hosts file support solve that without having to switch software ? I'm using Netguard on Android devices I don't want to root and it's been good. Plus it does per-app firewalling as well. [1]: https://www.zenz-solutions.de [2]: https://netguard.me [3]: https://blokada.org

I'm using pihole and blocking Google DNS and yet my tv was showing that awful banner. I think google serves the ads using some not-only-ads domain.

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The recommendation if your fridge starts showing ads one day is indeed that you throw it in the trash and get a fridge that, you know, doesn't do that. Same goes for an STB, or car, or any other thing that abuses you. You don't have to sit and take it simply because "that's the modern world". Consumer choice is an important and powerful tool. Don't buy or use crap that abuses you, and don't shop at vendors that think…

Wasting thousands of dollars tossing working hardware doesn't seem like it's really sticking it to manufacturers at all.

In some cases you be forced to. Discovering a hidden camera that takes random photos and send them for audience verification might be one reason I would drop a product.

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Speaking of this, YouTube changed recently for me and now unskippable ads are 15 seconds and if you watch them on a chromecast you can’t skip them from your phone anymore. You have to go into “remote control mode” and navigate the on-screen UI. Nothing grinds my gears worse than stuff you buy and integrate into your life unnecessarily degrading in performance/behaviour. I might actually be about done with YouTube, wh…

Ublock Origin + Newpipe + SmartTubeNext

These three programs are the only thing keeping YouTube tolerable. When Google eventually Widevine L1's everything I'll bail entirely.

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I haven't had cable for about 15 years now, and commercials are a big reason. But it's not even just the commercials, I just wasn't interested in the six hundreth special on Nostradamus or aliens on the history channel, or shows purportedly about space exploration that are 50% CGI and 49% speculation masquerading as observations or any kind of "reality shows". Yes and nothing makes me feel like my brain cells are com…

Yep; either show me ads and give me the content for free, or (ideally give me the option) let me pay and don’t show ads. If product people / The MBAs at a company think that there should still be ads on the paid version, consider what those are worth. I haven’t seen anyone try it, but consider a model of three options: 1. Free with lots of ads, 2. Paid but cheap with less ads, 3. Most costly but no ads. Basically, I…

I would guess that there's a vicious cycle at play here. The more someone is willing to pay to avoid ads, the deeper their pockets are, the more valuable they are as a consumer, the more money a company is willing to pay to advertise to them.

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> Apple is seems almost as bad too. There's recommendations that I don't want. The main AppleTV UI doesn’t have any recommendations for streaming apps you don’t own - the only thing that’s even close are when you highlight one of the apps in the top bar.

Just to clarify. The Apple TV (tvOS) interface gives extra functionality to apps on the top row of the launcher. (you have full control over ordering the apps). This functionality allows the apps to show whatever preview content they want per the SDK. Some show continue watching, and then suggestions, others show nothing. But you are in charge of what apps are on the top row.

Also, you can change the setting fore the TV.app so the large banner on the home screen only shows television shows and movies you have added to "Up Next". Go to "Settings" > "Apps" > "TV" and change the "Top Shelf" setting to "Up Next" instead of "What To Watch".

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Not that it's Apple's fault that YouTube has ads. But Apple don't seem to allow any alternative YouTube clients on the store.

Hm. My immediate counter to your point was “that is because YouTube doesn’t allow anyone to use their api,” but now that I think about it I’m not so sure. Is it Apple keeping non-Google-produced YouTube clients off the App Store, or is it Apple? Maybe both?

Apple have policy that apps cannot be on the store that use a unauthorized API’s

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Not that it's Apple's fault that YouTube has ads. But Apple don't seem to allow any alternative YouTube clients on the store.

Hm. My immediate counter to your point was “that is because YouTube doesn’t allow anyone to use their api,” but now that I think about it I’m not so sure. Is it Apple keeping non-Google-produced YouTube clients off the App Store, or is it Apple? Maybe both?

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Re: Nvidia Shield TV Owners Are Pissed About the Banner Ads in Android TV

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Wasting thousands of dollars tossing working hardware doesn't seem like it's really sticking it to manufacturers at all.

In some cases you be forced to. Discovering a hidden camera that takes random photos and send them for audience verification might be one reason I would drop a product.

Well, maybe, but that's a different claim.

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Settings -> Apps -> TV, turn off the sports recommendations in there. Those are off by default, so you must have turned them on at some point.

Yeah, I’ve done that plus one other remotely related setting. Doesn’t help. E.g. “Show sports scores” is off, “Games in Up Next” is off, and “Exciting Games” is off.

FWIW, I have all those things on and have never seen anything sports-related. I have changed the settings for the TV app to only show what's in "Up Next" instead of "What to Watch", though. Maybe that's the difference?
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