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Goodbye, Fleets

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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Gaelan »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #147
ChrisArchitect wrote: post #65

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Yeah I actually really respect that they axed something within a timely span, posted about their thoughts, and well, lately the Twitter team has been killing it as far as deploying features and long talked about stuff, so it's all good. The idea of Fleets, whether it was inspired by Stories etc, was another way to engage users and it did have some usefulness. I love the 24hr disappearing thing on IG and I liked it si…

The glaring omission is a time limited typo edit window. Just ducking ship it already.

I wonder if there are technical issues here? It wouldn't be too surprising if "tweets are immutable" (and therefore safe to aggressively cache) is an assumption baked into a lot of their code.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by irq-1 »

> Most Fleets include media – people enjoy quickly sharing photos and videos to add to the discussion on Twitter. Soon, we’ll test updates to the Tweet composer and camera to incorporate features from the Fleets composer – like the full-screen camera, text formatting options, and GIF stickers.

So more like TikTok and less thoughtful. Twitter became big because people (sometimes) expressed coherent thoughts and used it for serious issues like the Arab Spring and #timesup.

It's much harder to foster conversation but this feels like an 'Innovators Dilemma' moment for Twitter: either go low and be a poor TikTok or go high and be something different.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by zerocrates »

kyrofa wrote: post #169
chmod775 wrote: post #164

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I would think that a big problem here is to only allow correcting typos, not changing meaning of a tweet - which would suck for a public, fast-paced platform like twitter. This isn't as simple as counting the number of changed characters, especially when you have to consider at least dozens, better hundreds, of languages. But then again you can already cram about ten times as much meaning into a single tweet if you w…

> I would think that a big problem here is to only allow correcting typos, not changing meaning of a tweet - which would suck for a public, fast-paced platform like twitter. I feel like GitHub already solved that problem by showing an edit history on comments. Twitter could do the same thing. Even easier: don't actually publish tweets for 60 seconds, during which time they can be edited.

Having a time where it's not actually posted would work fine but probably not be super effective: after all, you already have an unlimited amount of time to look at the message sitting on your screen before you actually send it. It's just often very hard to read your own writing for typos. Still it would be a step forward. You could even make it opt-in.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by andy_ppp »

adolph wrote: post #143
andy_ppp wrote: post #79

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If you use your imagination you can still edit tweets and also have them be immutable. Loads of systems have an edit history or alternatively just a means to delete and recreate a tweet in the first 5 minutes after publication. There are probably other even better ways to solve this.

Or you could clone HN with a single-threaded UI.

But you can anonymously edit your messages on HN?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by FalconSensei »

quaintdev wrote: post #117
gonehome wrote: post #99

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Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting. You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire proces…

What I do 1. Bookmark instead of liking tweet if info is worth coming back to. 2. Retweet if I totally agree and want to share my view with my followers 3. Add people to different curated lists instead of following them. Twitter has some excellent feed curation tools but not many people are aware about them.

I second bookmarking. It's bad that they don't export it on the data export, and you can't scroll down after a certain limit, but at least it's private. And they seem to be planning on adding API support for bookmarks, so in the future we can just export it that way

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by figassis »

I think there is a limit to how much this type of microblogging can grow. Some people are just not into broadcasting every thought. Also, the immediate fallout of many tweet missteps as well as cancel culture is sure to hold many back.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

Maybe someone can correct me, but I don’t recall ever seeing a website fundamentally change itself or evolve and grow whereas I have seen time and time again something entirely new coming out and being the thing people use instead.

If you compared Twitter today to Twitter’s first tweet, it’s the same thing. Nothing’s changed with the site itself; I can see people talk about how they ate a sandwich then and still today.

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