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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by neutronicus »

Akronymus wrote: post #153
neutronicus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, my wife scrolls /r/all, expands posts (some of them text posts), and closes them, possibly clicking into the comments to discuss. If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off It's nice to have videos, images, and short articles in a familiar layout I know I'm much more likely to click a recipe link if it's a self-post, because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated…

> If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off is it partially because new reddit is a SPA that just craps itself when going to a external link and loses where you were?

Oh, no, she, like me, is a dyed-in-the-wool RES user who uses the old style

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by zo1 »

konschubert wrote: post #143
neutronicus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, my wife scrolls /r/all, expands posts (some of them text posts), and closes them, possibly clicking into the comments to discuss. If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off It's nice to have videos, images, and short articles in a familiar layout I know I'm much more likely to click a recipe link if it's a self-post, because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated…

> because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated behind multiple auto playing videos and the author's entire life story Thank SEO for that.

Thank Google for that.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Sebb767 »

okdjnfweonfe wrote: post #21

just by sticking a watermark on their videos, making some unique authorship tools, and make their content relatively easy to mirror, tiktok has taken a massive chunk of video thoughtshare with comparatively little effort. I really don't understand reddit adding features that are just enough to kill off competition la video hosting, but not enough to be usable... OK maybe I'm starting to understand now.

> but not enough to be usable

I actually don't understand this part. Trying to remove their external dependencies seems reasonable, but how would making them bad help?

A part of it is surely dark patterns to keep users engaged (i.e. the limited comment depth), but some of it just looks incompetent to me.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by neutronicus »

alpaca128 wrote: post #163
neutronicus wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, my wife scrolls /r/all, expands posts (some of them text posts), and closes them, possibly clicking into the comments to discuss. If, at any point, she accidentally follows a link, it really pisses her off It's nice to have videos, images, and short articles in a familiar layout I know I'm much more likely to click a recipe link if it's a self-post, because recipes on non-reddit websites always seem to be gated…

All problems that are instantly solved by opening links(even within the same site) in separate tabs. One of the many reasons I never use Reddit on the phone. Too bad websites are even making this inconsistent and broken, by using cursed webdesign to a degree that the browser can't figure out if an element is interactive before the user clicks on it.

I disagree

The whole point is having everything

a) in the context of the feed b) stripped of extraneous crap

Opening links in new tabs accomplishes neither of those things

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Sebb767 »

Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #69
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #40

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Since the redesign Reddit has been putting a huge amount of effort into keeping people on their platform. They've went out of their way to make it impossible to send a link directly to a video without external tools like the savevideo bot, any link to click will load the entire thread and they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests and merge them client-side so you can't just open dev tools to…

> they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests Just to give them the benefit of the doubt, many video sites do this (YT being the biggest). It allows you to change the video source on the fly (changing the bitrate for example) without effecting the audio playback so preventing any audio glitches during the swap. People are a lot more forgiving of video artifacts then they are of audio glitches.…

> So maybe thats why they do it and not some evil plan to annoy you from saving the video

I guess it's a bit of both. A technically better solution that also helps your marketing is simply a win-win-situation for them.

But it's kinda ironic that the upgraded the user experience with better playback while similarly degrading it by disallowing hotlinking. Typical sidegrade.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by rualca »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #109
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way. Reddit has become about rapid-fire content consumption without leaving the site. Following a link and actually reading an article for 5-10 minutes isn’t as exciting as rapidly consuming a few videos, a few screenshots, and a few self posts along with the top comments for the most interesting on…

> It’s because the most active parts of Reddit’s user base prefer it this way.

Do they have a choice or any say at all? Reddit is known as a leading employer of a vast collection of dark patterns to manipulate and pressure and restrict what a user can or cannot do.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by rualca »

pjc50 wrote: post #97
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular, especially outside of the tech-sphere Spam. The target site may be spammy: lots of adverts, popup/unders, taboola "chumboxes" etc. Or, if a site can make money from inbound link traffic, there's an incentive for its owners to spam links in subreddits to drive traffic to themselves. > This is especially bad on apps where you need to know how to find the share option sep…

> Spam.

This excuse doesn't really stick as reddit moderates content both by their user base but also by subreddit mods and reddit admins.

I'd say that this is all to do with the goal of turning reddit into a walled garden.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Y_Y »

oarsinsync wrote: post #168
kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

> I get people sending me things that I might like as a screenshot. Great, nice jacket, if only I could click that "buy" button. I wonder why sharing of links is so unpopular, especially outside of the tech-sphere. Is it that "link previews" are generally worse than a screenshot of the page? For the sender, especially on mobile, it takes less time to take and share a screenshot, then it takes to get the URL, copy it…

For years I've been wishing for a kind of screenshot that included more than just pixel values. Like if it made a little pdf of the region you chose that rendered without fuss or external resources. There's no technical reason we couldn't have the convenience of screenshots, but also copyable text, clickable links etc.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by Sebb767 »

dexterdog wrote: post #151
TeMPOraL wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a while since Reddit was a content aggregation site. Right now, Reddit is an ad delivery and data collection platform built around a content aggregation core, the way a mouse trap is built around a cheese cube.

There are ads on reddit? Does a significant percentage of reddit users not use ad blockers?

Yes, there are a lot of ads w/o adblockers. You can disable them by buying premium, but you'll have a hard time blocking them in the app. Also, adblock adaption is actually not that high compared to what tech circles suggest, more in the 5-20% range [0].

Lastly, Reddit is basically the origin of organic marketing. You can't block these ads ...

[0] Not a perfect source, but Statista cites 700 million users: https://www.statista.com/statistics/435252/adblock-users-wor...

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by hombre_fatal »

kevincox wrote: post #90

Once upon a time Reddit was a link aggregator. You would post a link and the author would get credit. You could save the link without Reddit. But Reddit is moving towards first party content. Not only has the site added native photo and video upload support but many communities disallow external content. Requiring a reupload or a screenshot. This not only removes the link to the actual creator but is also a nightmare…

The problem that Reddit's native vid/img upload solved was how every Reddit thread older than a year was a 404 link to imgur, a Youtube video since made private, etc.

It's essential to avoid link rot. Not long ago, old Reddit content was almost always dead.

As usual, it's just trade-offs.

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