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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by nikodunk »

aeharding wrote: post #101

Wow. This is a significant UX improvement for MacOS users! I might try FF as my daily personal browser in lieu of Safari. Overscroll and (to a lesser extent) native context menus are huge to me.

Agreed! That overscroll bounce is huge for MacOS users. I know there was an open bug forever on that - super glad they implemented it. Makes it feel way more native.

I've been using Firefox full-time since Quantum again - mainly for speed - but it's amazing how nice it is starting to feel too.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by smolder »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #59
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

UIs can be function first just like clothing, which is how I like it, just like clothing. Fashion is nothing but an obstacle for people with practical concerns. Pardon me for hating fashion, but I do.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

fabioz wrote: post #169

I'm a long time user of FF. I really don't like the UI changes in this upgrade, but setting: "browser.proton.enabled" to false "browser.uidensity" to 1 (while using the `System Theme`) Seems to have done the trick, so, I can just ignore the UI changes (which is great)... fingers crossed in that this keeps working in the future. UI changes are very much subjective, so, I think that it's great that some people like the…

Thanks. At least for now, this staves off the existential panic and need to use a different browser.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by zejn »

matsemann wrote: post #90
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

> Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? It doesn't. Maybe small parts of it get tweaks here and there. But your argument about having to re-adjust every update is just dishonest.

Small tweaks are like living with opinionated people who have to touch and move everything that is not where they think it should be.

You have no clue how annoying and nerve wrecking that is.

Changing my daily workspace where I am supposed to be productive is something that should be considered a breaking change. I'd like software to leave my workspace alone if at all possible.

Make another product for those who want it different.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by sharps1 »

coffeeling wrote: post #137
unethical_ban wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Not Google * Multi-Account Containers (a bit of a power-user tool, but great for isolation) Frankly, that's all I have now. You can't customize the UI like you used to, the extension marketplace for FF and Chrome are pretty much parity, and the speed of FF (and Chrome) is great. I think they're both power hungry, though.

A lack of tab groups and PWA are pretty big strikes against Firefox.

Simple Tab Groups work pretty well, especially with Sidebery.

Both are recommended by Mozilla, so they are checked to not be malicious. Recommended extensions are another bonus over Chrome as you cannot tell in general if a chrome extension is safe.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-gr...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/?utm...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by therealunreal »

I noticed a light blue or sky blue color used as the accent color (on Windows at the moment). Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/yZUXhxf

It's even used as outline on this textbox I'm typing in. I would expect it to use the system accent color, but it does not! Any ideas if I can customize just this color, without installing a different theme?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by afranchuk »

kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

I had the same reaction. It reads a bit like the UI engineers didn't have enough to do and stared at it until they found things to change. For instance, having the tab visually disconnected to cue that you can rearrange it is fine... but at this point if a user doesn't know they can rearrange tabs, maybe they shouldn't be rearranging tabs.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by potamic »

kevincox wrote: post #10

Does anyone feel that this new UI brings notable improvement? I don't think it is much worse, other than taking some extra vertical space but for the most part my reaction is "meh". I feel like these resources could have been spent much better in other parts of the browser. Am I missing some reason why this is worth the investment?

I don't like it. The tabs look like buttons and not tabs. It's such an unnecessary deviation from a standard tabbed interface look and feel that everyone is accustomed to. I'm not sure what their reasons are for experimenting with something new but I would be curious to know.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by morsch »

Someone1234 wrote: post #141

The Firefox UI team keeps rotating the same chairs, but hasn't touched the awful bookmark UIs for five+ years. They're just lucky that Edge-Chrome's odd floating Favorites box is what it is, or they'd have the worst offering (and even in Edge-Chrome you can open the Chrome-like Bookmarks tab). I was legitimately hopeful that everyone would just copy Chrome's very functional and clean Bookmarks approach, but I guess w…

The last time they touched the bookmarks interface was when they added "collections" to the Android version, which now coexist side by side with bookmarks. Kind of bizarre.
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