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Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by kuschku »

jschwartzi wrote: post #166
kuschku wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you use these high contrast colors, you will break it for users on good displays. That means potential investors, people on iPhones, people on expensive samsung phones. Those are the people you usually want as customers. And you're making your website painful for them. That's a decision you can make, but don't be surprised if you'll fail with that attitude.

Unless I'm writing a blog or something, in which case I'm not looking for customers and I really don't care if anyone reads it or not.

Even in that case you should consider that your readers might have a diverse range of devices, and configuring a 1000:1 contrast ratio isn't exactly the greatest solution.

Keep colors and contrast restricted to the range possible by reflective materials (i.e. what can be printed on paper or ever be encountered in nature) and all the issues are immediately gone. You don't have to use grey-on-grey (which is super annoying). Just keep to the range of colors a newspaper will have, or a zebra will have.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by yoz-y »

Hard_Space wrote: post #91

So this is basically Sakura [1] copy and pasted. I know, because it looks exactly like my website, and that's how I did it. [1] https://oxal.org/projects/sakura/demo/ https://github.com/oxalorg/sakura

My preferred classless css framework is Marx. https://mblode.github.io/marx/

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by deergomoo »

CivBase wrote: post #145
lxe wrote: post #74

I built an antithesis to this: https://lxe.github.io/everywebsite/

> Also you have to click "I Agree" No thanks. My preferred method for removing cookie banners is to just delete the node from the DOM. It works 99% of the time and I don't have to agree to anything. I suspect it's only a matter of time until someone makes uBlock Origin for cookie banners instead of ads. EDIT: Nevermind. It's already part of uBlock Origin.

I've noticed an increasing number of sites that seem to break in weird ways, until I temporarily disable my ad blocker to agree/reject cookies, then it works again.

Frustrating really because they're supposed to be opt-in, so no response at all should == reject

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by dapids »

kuschku wrote: post #90
munchbunny wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes I know the art theory stuff about never using black because it doesn't appear naturally. I think the underlying reasons for that are underappreciated. When you pick #000000 for your text color, people won't see it as pure black anyway. Imperfections in your screen's backlighting aside, your screen reflects the ambient lighting, or, if you're outdoors and pointed the wrong direction on a sunny day, your screen r…

On a good monitor, the color contrast between #ffffff and #000000 is far beyond the contrast possible in nature. No reflective material can reach those colors or that contrast. That color contrast is perfect for a game, a movie or an image. But you don't want the feeling of something as bright as looking into the fucking sun mixed with the darkness of the deepest starless night. That's just painful, both in light mod…

"Just calibrate your monitor". If only making every monitor calibrate perfectly was so simple. Sometimes you don't have permission or access to even calibrate said monitor. Your talking about nits like every monitor is able to control its nits output, which is certainly not true.

Sometimes, you just have a shitty monitor. There are entire communities dedicated to calibrating monitors as I'm sure you are aware, it's time consuming and can be expensive, it's not a solution, we have manufacturer ICC profiles for a reason.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by ModernMech »

dspillett wrote: post #164
hardwaregeek wrote: post #42

The overly curse happy programmer speak is so very stale. I'm not offended or anything but it's just not that great. It doesn't make the content more interesting. It doesn't make the author seem any cooler. It's just meh. It reminds me of Epic Meal Time; a facade of coolness based on cursing, alcohol and over the top food. I love that instead of this style we're getting a new generation of programmers who are genuine…

> The overly curse happy programmer speak is so very stale. This one isn't so bad in context. It is several down a chain of pages responding to each other that started with a sweary one. As well as each page adding more points (or arguing agaist previously stated ones) they have added a little extra profanity too. On its own I'd agree with you assessment, but within the pattern if you have followed the story it fits…

IMO the context makes this one worse. The first one was amusing. The second one was stale. This one is cringeworthy and played out.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by zozbot234 »

rkangel wrote: post #7

From " http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ " which is one up the chain: > A little less contrast WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. To give this person credit they have at least chosen some sensible values, rather than gone with something that was just about enough on an expensive graphic designer high-contrast monitor and then not tested it on anything else. Leaving the rest of us squinting to try and read text or manua…

> Contrast is good. It makes things easier to read. Why would you want less?

One sensible reason for this is that it allows using higher contrast, or different hues w/ similar contrast, as a kind of emphasis that naturally stands out from the surrounding text. Same reasons why most terminal emulators display text as light-gray-on-black, while keeping pure white as a highlight color.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

kuschku wrote: post #79
rkangel wrote: post #7

From " http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/ " which is one up the chain: > A little less contrast WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. To give this person credit they have at least chosen some sensible values, rather than gone with something that was just about enough on an expensive graphic designer high-contrast monitor and then not tested it on anything else. Leaving the rest of us squinting to try and read text or manua…

> WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS. Do you like 400 nits of #ffffff right into your eyeballs? No? Me neither. The alternative is absolute darkness with extremely bright text, which in turn makes it unreadable (if you have astigmatism as I do) and literally causes pain due to the high contrast. Nothing in nature has such an extreme contrast. The only reason anyone would ever use full contrast is if they have a shitty 6-bit…

> Do you like 400 nits of #ffffff right into your eyeballs?

If you don't like what your display does, tweak its settings to do what you like.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by wrycoder »

enraged_camel wrote: post #73
Veen wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> WHY. WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS Because designers are taught that too much contrast causes eye strain. They're advised against putting pure black text on bright white backgrounds. https://www.wired.com/2016/10/how-the-web-became-unreadable/

I hate Youtube on dark mode for that reason: it's white text on black background and I struggle to read comments!

Which leaves you seeing phantom lines when you look away from the screen.

Re: Perfect Motherfucking Website

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Post by dokem »

booleandilemma wrote: post #72
danShumway wrote: post #56

I want to hecking scream. The point of the original website in this chain was not that you couldn't do media queries, or that all of your designs had to be unstyled. It was a gosh-darned satire that showed that even if you did literally nothing , your website would still be responsive and readable and load fast. The fact that it did nothing, that it was just a completely unstyled HTML page was the reason that the jok…

This one has a dark theme though.

And HTTPS so I can sleep at night knowing noone MITM'd my stupid internet content.
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