Another alternative (not self-hosted or open source) is Fibery.io
More powerful than Airtable, and has some Notion-like capabilities.
Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
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Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that pricing is expected to be the opposite of what it really should be. Companies with 10k users expect a discount, but the reality is they should be paying a lot more because building a product to serve 10k users is much harder than building a product to serve 10 users. On the flipside, why should I, as a small user, share in the cost of things like scalability, HA, SLAs, etc.? I don't need those thi…
Is it 1000x times harder to server 10K users?
In some cases yes. I worked for a b2b company, which was not designed as multi-tenant and all their customers were under the same db and the same service. Now imagine response time for small business vs enterprises (yes they had a few of those paying premium, lol), sometimes the later was infinite.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#173I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…
Yeah, most SaaS solutions have this problem. GitLab wants you to pay $80/user/mo to be able to get dependency scanning or vulnerability scanning. While Github gives you that for free. They could at least include it in their $20/user/month tier.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#174I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…
> - Booleans in the API are `true` or `undefined`. Seriously. But why???
Because they are not real boolean datatype, just strings probably.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
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#176I will be using this, and dropping a lot of my paid AirTable bases...and let me please explain why. Airtable makes it VERY hard to collaborate with people outside my organization. We are a team of 7 people. No longer a scrappy 1-person startup, but not an enterprise client by any-means. If I want to add a single person to an Airtable base, that's $24 a month please. I have one client with 12 people that want to colla…
It does seem odd for those "low code" tools to not have a way to deal with "external users". For example, it would be logical to create a tool for accepting job candidates. The internal facing piece would be limited to some reasonable number of users, but the outward facing piece would have to allow anyone to submit a record. I do know that knack.com has a pricing model based on number of records instead of number of…
Airtable does allow you to create a publishable form view so that anyone can submit a new record.
You can also add read-only users to a base without having to pay for them. But giving them any kind of edit access (even just the ability to add comments to records) requires a full-fledged user account.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they are not real boolean datatype, just strings probably.
Wonder what they use underneath; don't most relation dbs implement as int?
When you’re doing dynamic structure in relational dbs (traditionally) options include storing a wide row with all the data types and you choose which column to use, or storing as lowest common denominator (string) and casting in and out at runtime. These days you can work around this stuff with json / schemaless models.
Airtable allow switching data types on a column (from memory). Maybe they store everything as string and then the column definition is for display and allowed operations.
Hubspot do this (poorly) so they’re forever giving you back things like dates as string of a number representing a date.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#178I am so excited for this software. I have used Airtable extensively, and it's a pile of garbage. Here are just a FEW of the "features" Airtable charges $24/user/mo for: - Reliable 1-5 hours a month of downtime. There are months where it's literally 1 nine of uptime. Their status page was actually down for a while (I think they forgot to renew it?) - Simple and obvious bugs in the official API clients have not been fi…
Yeah, most SaaS solutions have this problem. GitLab wants you to pay $80/user/mo to be able to get dependency scanning or vulnerability scanning. While Github gives you that for free. They could at least include it in their $20/user/month tier.
At some point you have to pay a price to maintain a competition in the ecosystem. We all know what happens when there is only a player left. Microsoft can just sink billions in side games like Teams and GitHub at the moment.
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#179Hello everyone, I am Bram Wiepjes, the founder of Baserow. Baserow is an open source, soon to be open core, no-code database tool and Airtable alternative. Easily create your own relational database in a user friendly way without technical experience. - Unlimited rows. - Released under the MIT license. - Uses popular frameworks like Django and Vue.js. - Uses PostgreSQL as database backend. - It can be self hosted. -…
Hey, some things I'd love to see in Baserow:
- Join fields from related table (currently we can only see the id from the joined table field)
- Multi-line select, multi line update.
- Schema support
- Saving views (sort/filter option, hidden fields, joined fields)
I also have a question, are Kanban and Calendar view available in the free self hosted version?
Re: Baserow.io – Self-hosted Airtable alternative
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, most SaaS solutions have this problem. GitLab wants you to pay $80/user/mo to be able to get dependency scanning or vulnerability scanning. While Github gives you that for free. They could at least include it in their $20/user/month tier.
At some point you have to pay a price to maintain a competition in the ecosystem. We all know what happens when there is only a player left. Microsoft can just sink billions in side games like Teams and GitHub at the moment.
Personally, I think these two features should be part of the $20 tier and not the most expensive one. I don't understand why I have to pay $60/user/month more to get some UI integration which I can also get when paying for GitHub Enterprise for similar price as GitLab's $20 tier