Is this for real? They really sent post with instructions on who should one vote for?
Have you never received a voting guide from the local chapter of your political party?
Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, Teen Vogue has plenty of solid journalism.
I'm genuinely not sure if this is sarcasm or not. Teen Vogue is certainly surprisingly serious, but my standard for "solid journalism" involves some attempt at neutrality and objectivity as opposed to hyper-partisan ideology marketed to children. To be quite clear, the overall modern media landscape is highly partisan and sensationalist; Teen Vogue mostly only stands out in that they're marketing their divisive ideol…
I assure you it is not sarcastic at all.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
You appear to perhaps be from the UK (saw "honour"). Employees in the UK have quite a lot more protection by default than they do in the US. I do respect your go-it-alone-and-fight-my-own-battles position, but consider that you might feel differently if you were in a US "right to work" state.
I'd assume Canada since up here we've got a weird mix of americanisms and britishisms. Also, the state/province gives a bit away.
You're both a little right. I grew up in the UK and lived there until I was 25, I've since worked and lived in the U.S. but now live and work in Canada.
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#174This looks bad but companies with unions do this a lot. I remember seeing welcome packages for Delta Airlines employees where they tell them to not join the union and explaining why on their perspective is bad to do so. I'm not saying this is correct, but unions are rarely aligned with companies, so there is always going to be a perpetual fight between unions and companies that have them. You can't really expect Amaz…
I've yet to work for a big non-union company that didn't have some anti-union literature or speech once in a while. It didn't even matter if unionizing was in the employees best interest or not. The company knew it was not in their best interest, and so they spoke out.
I'm not at all surprised that Amazon is doing the same.
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#175Are Amazon employees really going to even read those leaflets? This is just too rich on Amazon's site. Like they really give a flying fuck about people saving those $500 in dues. C'mon, tell it to your house cat. It might actually believe you.
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#176Full disclosure: I've always been anti-union for my own personal approach to life. I do see the value in unions, I've just always, to this point, been a go-it-alone-and-fight-my-own-battles kind of person. I don't want to be beholden to a union or their rules any more than I want to be beholden to an employer beyond my contractual obligations for which I'm paid. That said, people should take note of what happened whe…
So they were both reduced hours and beholden to their jobs with no time off?
Both situations applied to different people. I'd find it weirdly paradoxical for one person to find themselves in both situations simultaneously.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also reference Amazon's "Do it without dues" site: https://www.doitwithoutdues.com/
HEY BHM1 DOERS, why pay almost $500 in dues? We’ve got you covered* with high wages, health care, vision, and dental benefits, as well as a safety committee and an appeals process. There’s so much MORE you can do for your career and your family without paying dues. *Applies to regular full-time employees. IF YOU’RE PAYING DUES… it will be RESTRICTIVE meaning it won’t be easy to be as helpful and social with each othe…
It means if you join a union you can't work unpaid and off the clock to be "helpful and social" with your coworkers.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is weird. The literal purpose of a corporation in all its varieties, for profit, non-profit, co-op, S Corp, C Corp etc. is to pool the resources of its owners and serve their interests. Unions are just another type of corporation.
> Unions are just another type of corporation. No, unions are not just another type of corporation. They are a very special type of corporation: One which is exempt from anti-trust laws.
Is that even true? Quick Google searches seem to show several instances of antitrust accusations against non-profits including trade unions and professional associations. There does seem to be a basic exemption for trade unions, but it seems that trade unions can lose that exemption for behaving in certain ways.
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#180I am of the firm belief that Unions are a thing that are extremely good in theory, but rarely work out in practice. They kill innovation, profits and skills and turns a competitive workforce into a mediocre one. :-(