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What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by dragontamer »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #166
dragontamer wrote: post #9

Cool Mist humidifiers are just hard IMO. 1. Warm Mist humidifiers work by boiling water. This has the downside of... well... boiling hot water hanging around the area. But otherwise, these are the simplest and are only ~$20 or $30. 2. Cool Mist humidifiers try to get around the boiling water issue. Since they humidify at room-temperatures, they're a lot more efficient... but now bacteria / mold is growing constantly.…

> 1. Warm Mist humidifiers work by boiling water. This has the downside of... well... boiling hot water hanging around the area. But otherwise, these are the simplest and are only ~$20 or $30. Or $0 if you have a pot, a stove, and a tap.

You're going to move your stove to your bedroom and leave it on while you sleep?

You're paying $20 to $30 for safety auto-shutoff features so that you can leave these things on all night long, and not have to worry about fumes, fire, or a myriad of other issues.

Yeah, its basically equivalent to a pot of boiling water + a stove. But... being able to move it to the locations you need (and safety features to boot) is the big advantage.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by falcolas »

pishpash wrote: post #170
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that too much bleach though? I do just a few drops in my ~1 gallon humidifier that works continuously in my clone room and it stays clean and even keeps the Serratia bacteria that make the pink stuff in the reservoir at bay. I do use reverse osmosis water to fill it though. Is breathing that much aerosolized chlorine a concern? A calculator I use is here. Tap water is about 2 ppm. https://www.publichealthontario.c…

So when the water evaporates you get salt precipitates all over the wick, and more and more over time?

Wicks are a consumable item, whether in swamp coolers, humidifiers, candles or lamps.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by falcolas »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #168
falcolas wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A teaspoon- of bleach or so for 3 gallons of water will solve your mold issue quite handily, even while sitting. It's not enough to smell even when the humidifier is running at full blast. Just enough to kill bacteria and mold. I'm repeating this advice a lot in this thread, it surprises me it's not better known.

Is that too much bleach though? I do just a few drops in my ~1 gallon humidifier that works continuously in my clone room and it stays clean and even keeps the Serratia bacteria that make the pink stuff in the reservoir at bay. I do use reverse osmosis water to fill it though. Is breathing that much aerosolized chlorine a concern? A calculator I use is here. Tap water is about 2 ppm. https://www.publichealthontario.c…

I hasn’t been an issue, but I am careful to not overdo it. I have overdone it once with a cool mist humidifier, and it was definitely noticeably uncomfortable. I replaced the water quite quickly.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by yencabulator »

> Water gets everywhere when carrying the refilled tank back to the humidifier.

How? The water tank has a screw-on cap with a "plunger" in middle, and that plunger opens only if you push it (to let water flow when you lower it into the humidier). It doesn't splash water around when carried. This makes no sense.

The only explanation I can think is that this person carries the water tank cap-downward, and their "plunger" leaks. That seems just silly to carry it like that, why would you do that, especially if the end result bothers you.

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Post by kortilla »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #160
kortilla wrote: post #142

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> The world can decide it values good writing and that writers deserve a decent income It has decided. The sad truth is just that “good writing” just isn’t that valuable (as can be seen in how much people pay) if you don’t have some killer content to back it up. Good writing is requisite but not sufficient. Just because something is a sustaining profession for a few people doesn’t mean it should be for everyone who d…

Nobody is forcing you to write. I write because it's something I can do. I'm seriously handicapped and there are a lot of things I simply cannot do. That's a lousy argument. I use myself as an example for various reasons, but the reality is this a widespread problem and the state of journalism is a real problem, as I noted above. I'm well aware of why people don't like hearing they basically want slave labor. I've li…

> I'm well aware of why people don't like hearing they basically want slave labor.

They don’t like it because it’s a bald faced lie. You’re accusing them of supporting slavery.

Just a quick refresher on what slavery is (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery)

> Slavery and enslavement are both the state and the condition of being a slave, who is someone forbidden to quit their service for another person and is treated as property.

I implore you to read that article to grasp how horrific and life smothering actual slave labor is. You comparing writing voluntarily for free to that is offensive and smacks of first world entitlement. Perhaps you’re just trolling and I fell for it, but there are people surviving today in slave labor conditions that can only dream of quitting and spending their days arguing on the Internet (after they learn to read and write of course!). Until then they’ll just keep working 12 hour days of hard labor 7 days a week.

Wanting something for free is not the same thing as wanting slavery.

I use hacker news and read the comments here under the expectations that I will not pay for them and nobody will be writing them under coercion. The same applies to reading random blogs, etc. I don’t want to pay for that because it changes the entire nature of the relationship and I frankly just don’t care about any one particular piece of information.

I will pay for deep expertise (e.g. books or even substack). But as I said before, the ability to write is necessary, but the subject is what I’m paying for.

I bought the Harry Potter books because of the world she built, not because of her writing ability. The same applies to most of her fans, as born to out by the tepid performance of the pseudonym book.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by abiogenesis »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #110
bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #107

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Do you have any proof of this?

The rest of the Wirecutter article where it backtracks?

I think you misread this sentence:

> In it, the company claims that The Wirecutter initially picked NextDesk as an editorial recommendation but later downgraded the recommendation after NextDesk declined to set up an affiliate-revenue agreement.

These are NextDesk's "claims". Wirecutter does not acknowledge them. According to Wirecutter this is what happened:

> Without the editorial team’s knowledge, NextDesk and our business team exchanged communications about setting up an affiliate agreement, and ultimately NextDesk declined to do so. That fact was never communicated to our editorial team until NextDesk itself made it known to them by email in November 2015, long after the new pick had been made.

Update: I'm not saying that I'm buying it; just clarifying their response.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by dragontamer »

falcolas wrote: post #167
dragontamer wrote: post #162

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Maybe my tap water has more minerals than your tap water. A good bit of slag builds up in my warm-air humidifier, and the white-dust was noticeable after a few weeks of ultrasonic. Warm-air humidifiers are less efficient: My room is ~25% without any devices running. An ultrasonic would bring it up to 35%+, but Warm-air humidifier only brings it up to 32% or so. Another efficiency test: both units were 1-quart (EDIT:…

> Maybe my tap water has more minerals than your tap water Unlikely; my tap water is well water. I do clean the humidifier with vinegar every week to keep the mineral buildup down. Then again, I do that with the shower head and tea kettle too (though a bit less frequently). The big thing, as I've found it, is keeping the output down to a visible minimum. A big plume of mist that visibly lands anywhere isn't adding mo…

Hmm...

Then it is probably a difference in ultrasonic humidifiers. I can tell you that mine barely builds up much slag at all. I switched to warm-air after I grew tired of the white-dust issue.

The white-dust issue is further confirmed as I use the warm-air (boiling-type) humidifier. A LOT of minerals are found every day from my boiled-away tap-water... minerals that clearly used to be sprayed into the air and dusting my furniture.

Re: What’s Wrong With The Honeywell Humidifier

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Post by dragontamer »

adolph wrote: post #123
dragontamer wrote: post #9

Cool Mist humidifiers are just hard IMO. 1. Warm Mist humidifiers work by boiling water. This has the downside of... well... boiling hot water hanging around the area. But otherwise, these are the simplest and are only ~$20 or $30. 2. Cool Mist humidifiers try to get around the boiling water issue. Since they humidify at room-temperatures, they're a lot more efficient... but now bacteria / mold is growing constantly.…

Do any humidifiers use UV to disinfect?

Put some 3% H202 into a spray bottle. Then spray the humidifier once a week all over to disinfect.

Proper Bleach (Sodium hypochlorite) is probably cheaper, but there's a major convenience factor to just spraying H2O2, and Hydrogen Peroxide is pretty cheap as it is ($2 for 1-liter).

Its not so much that the disinfection was hard to do in my case... Its that it became somewhat of a hassle. Warm Air is nice since it auto-disinfects itself with boiling water. I still disinfect manually, but just once-a-week instead of every day.

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