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Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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There is a lot of open source file sync software out there (ownCloud, NextCloud, Seafile, Syncthing, ...) that would be much better suited for a self-hosted Dropbox replacement than a single bash script. You are many orders of magnitude more likely to lose your data due to a code bug or unstable network than deplatforming. I looked into setting up something of the sort for myself a little while ago, but unfortunately…

Yes. Been using Syncthing and it's been great. Only down side is there's no iOS port.

I heard about this from another recent HN thread https://www.mobiussync.com however I haven’t had a chance to try it yet so I can’t attest to its quality.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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$0.25 /GB is pretty expensive. I'm using Hetzner Storage Box [1] which has tonnes of connectivity options where 1TB is only 9.40€ (works out at 0.0094€ /GB) [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box

I've never heard about Hetzner before, but those are some good prices. Have they been around for long, and you know of any external public audit that has been done on them?

Hetzner is (one of) the largest German dedicated server providers.

They are DIN ISO/IEC 27001 certified: https://www.hetzner.com/unternehmen/zertifizierung. Of course if you only store encrypted data you don't really need this auditing.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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You can self host syncing service pretty easily: 1) Get a Synology NAS. 2) Install the 'Synology Drive' package 3) set up 'Quickconnect' (~DDNS) 4) Remote backup can be though a number of providers (e.g. Backblaze) for cheap No monthly fees. No domain needed. Storage is as cheap as the HDD's you stock it with. Your hardware and all your files are in your own house. Everything on BlackBlaze can be encrypted. You can s…

And what happens if somebody breaks in and steals your NAS?

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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I had a terrible, terrifying experience with DO where they hard locked my account for days (and it would have been weeks if I hadn't made a huge stink) because of a misunderstanding. They ban/lock first, ask questions later, and that's not cool and I can't have my (and my customer's) important infrastructure treated that way. I now use Linode for most of my stuff, and once they have cloud firewalls available in Dalla…

I’ve had only positive experiences with Linode, including incidents where I faced absolutely massive DDoS attacks. On the other hand, my account is suspended from DigitalOcean, I have multiple droplets they refuse to give the data to, and they even had the audacity to keep billing me until I did credit card chargebacks. I still have no idea why I was banned. Maybe because I used the GitHub student pack promo but I ha…

Another happy Linode user here. They might not have the nicest interface, but their service is top notch and I much prefer their UI to Digital Ocean's any day of the week. I've been with Linode for ten years now.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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They flagged my account and pulled 100% of my servers with no mitigation for 12 hours until I convinced them I was legitimate. DO still handles that incredibly poorly, which is the reason we no longer host anything critical there.

What or who do you suggest instead ?AWS?

Vultr. They’ve been fantastic.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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The article, and many of the posts here, seem like a baroque expansion of this (in)famous original response to the Dropbox launch: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863. I can get off Dropbox by... writing my own shell scripts?

What's sad is that increasingly people are feeling that the price for these easy, convenient services is too high, in terms of privacy loss, data lock-in, and so on. Are we going back to the early 00s, when the tech-savvy people would roll their own solutions and everyone else... just has to lump it? Are hackers just being too idealistic? Or do organizations like Signal show a possible way forward?

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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If that's what you are doing why not just go to Wasabi? It is cheaper, storage is the only thing that they do and downloads is free until the GB transferred is under GB stored per month.

I looked at Wasabi not long ago. > For customers that use Wasabi’s pay-as-you-go pricing model, Wasabi has a minimum monthly charge associated with 1 TB of storage ($5.99/month). If you store less than 1 TB of active storage in your account, your total charge will still be $5.99/month (plus any applicable taxes). See FAQ#4 for more details. > With Wasabi minimum storage retention policy, minimum number of days are as…

It is six dollars a month per TB billed on a GB level with 1TB minimum, with no weird plan tiers with S3 compatible API and no stupid per API call charges, reasonable pull pricing ( either free or cheap ), not related to other accounts.

What, exactly is that level of control of $ spent ( as it is going to be lower than pennies ), that people want while maintaining reasonable reliability, stability, durability and scalability of storage.

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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$0.25 /GB is pretty expensive. I'm using Hetzner Storage Box [1] which has tonnes of connectivity options where 1TB is only 9.40€ (works out at 0.0094€ /GB) [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box

I've never heard about Hetzner before, but those are some good prices. Have they been around for long, and you know of any external public audit that has been done on them?

Yeah I've been with them for 8 years as they're the best value hosting provider [1] I've found, which I use for all my memory or computational heavy workloads as they come at a fraction of the cost of what it would cost on AWS.

[1] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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I'm a long-time DigitalOcean user and I'm happy with most of their products, but I use Backblaze for S3-compatible storage. It's half the price of Spaces, and I get better transfer rates from my DigitalOcean droplet to B2 than I get to Spaces, even within the same DigitalOcean datacenter.

There are tons of companies offering S3-compatible storage, and there's not much difference between them, other than price. Performance capabilities are similar; they all limit bandwidth. All the ones I've evaluated charge for egress over a certain threshold. Some are more reliable than others. For personal use, there's not a whole lot of difference between them for me.

One really cheap alternative for some use cases is Office 365. For $99/year, you can get a family subscription, which allows six accounts. Each gets 1TB of S3-compatible OneDrive storage. If you can handle it being broken up into six 1TB chunks, it's by far the cheapest storage out there. For comparison, Backblaze is $5/TB/mo, and Office 365 gets you $1.37/TB/mo. I didn't end up using this option because the authentication mechanism was inconvenient for my automated use case and I didn't end up needing so much storage, but it's worth investigating if you're on a budget and don't need automated access via e.g. rclone mounts (or want to take the time to overcome the authentication issues I ran into).

I evaluated about a dozen S3 storage options for both backups and as backing storage for a personal Plex server (of media I own) and eventually settled on Backblaze because it's cheap, easy to use, and I didn't need more than 1-2TB in the end (since not a single one can keep up with streaming video bandwidth needs, I ditched the Plex idea).

Re: Replacing Dropbox in favor of DigitalOcean spaces

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You could also go the route of using Backblaze for storage and Cloudflare for delivery. You'll pay $1.25 for the same 250gb ($0.005/gb) and get free bandwidth through CF.

Does this have a limitation? Size or whatever ? I want something to store peertube videos and serve them. This sounds like too good to be true

Cloudflare limits uploads to 100MB per HTTP request, download bandwidth is pretty much free.
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