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Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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txru wrote: post #141
Nacdor wrote: post #80

Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…

The claim that not a single person had a Parler account is trivially refutable. https://twitter.com/azforeman/status/1348648808390008832/pho... If he didn't bother to look at a famous person like the "QAnon Shaman", why does the rest of this claim stand to scrutiny?

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Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

thomasjudge wrote: post #73
xvector wrote: post #40

And here we see the problem with centralized social media. Did anyone think that handing control over to megacorps would end differently? Today it’s Parler, tomorrow it’s whatever political ideology Big Tech finds inconvenient.

"Handing control over." Seriously, do you have a realistic alternative? If we are going to have social media, at scale, in a capitalist society, it's hard to see how there's much of an alternative to for-profit companies. Do you want the government to run Twitter?

We could rebuild social media on the same principles as the World Wide Web, where it's not run by any single group at all. (I'd argue that's actually what we had back in the days of the "blogosphere".)

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by chrisco255 »

wyldfire wrote: post #144
chrisco255 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you watch the most recent Zuckerberg testimony in Congress? There, Senator Hawley grilled Zuckerberg about a communication platform, SENTRA, in which Twitter, Google, Facebook, absolutely are known to collaborate on who to ban and what to ban. He shows a screenshot in the hearing to Zuckerberg, and Mark is caught weaseling in his chair about it. That is collusion. https://rumble.com/vbru89-republican-senator-gril…

I hardly think Hawley is a model of a trustworthy source these days.

I would. He showed the screenshot and Zuckerberg didn't deny it. At any rate, I wouldn't consider Zuckerberg a trustworthy source these days.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by coderintherye »

chrisco255 wrote: post #48
hctaw wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how is it indicative of collusion? Do you have evidence that they communicated with each other? If anything, the domino-like behavior (Google Play -> Apple ultimatum, AWS pulling support) suggests no one colluded about anything.

Did you watch the most recent Zuckerberg testimony in Congress? There, Senator Hawley grilled Zuckerberg about a communication platform, SENTRA, in which Twitter, Google, Facebook, absolutely are known to collaborate on who to ban and what to ban. He shows a screenshot in the hearing to Zuckerberg, and Mark is caught weaseling in his chair about it. That is collusion. https://rumble.com/vbru89-republican-senator-gril…

You are confused, Centra is an internal Facebook tool for monitoring users. They separately discussed a tool for coordination on hashtags that is not Centra. https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2020/11/facebook-centra-su...

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Post by modernpacifist »

In seeing all of these complaints about the cloud providers getting too big, owning the internet etc, have folks forgotten how to run their own equipment or what renting a dedicated server is?

The internet did function prior to cloud computing existing and surprise, running a rack full of NUCs can give you a lot of capacity to run a glorified message board.

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Post by burger_moon »

Nacdor wrote: post #80

Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…

This Glen Greebwald who "quit" in protest to his false Hunter Biden witch hunt?

The guy lost all credibility pushing that fake bullshit story so far he lost his job at his own news org.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/glenn-greenwald-quits-the-inte...

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by overscore »

meekmockmook wrote: post #17

I have seen so many violent threats and incitements on Twitter, Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram over the last 5 years that Parler could possibly make the case that they've been singled out, but I doubt it. They're just too unsympathetic of a plaintiff, imho. That said, antitrust battles against Big Tech will dominate the next four years of economic policy, and rightfully so. GAFA is too big, too powerful, too manip…

> Sectarian violence is not just a term for non-Western countries.

Has it ever been? Probably the best known use of the word in many countries is The Troubles.

Re: Parler LLC vs. Amazon Web Services Inc

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Post by alasdair_ »

xvector wrote: post #40

And here we see the problem with centralized social media. Did anyone think that handing control over to megacorps would end differently? Today it’s Parler, tomorrow it’s whatever political ideology Big Tech finds inconvenient.

Parler had the same "political ideology" the week before the violence. No one cared about their ideology. Once specific violent acts occured, and calls went un-addressed on Parler for more violence, people started to care.

The violence is the issue, not the ideology.

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