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Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by vimy »

mullingitover wrote: post #163
tetrometal wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're narrowing the criteria to match this specific event and asking for an exact replica the left, of which there are none. We see through your rhetoric. Last summer was replete with examples of violence from the left. Far more deadly and destructive than seen at the capitol building riot.

Overwhelmingly peaceful, massive, justified protests with scattered violence, versus highly targeted political violence instigated by the highest-ranking public official and based on an unvarnished lie. These things are the same to you?

If you think it was scattered and not organized you haven't been paying attention. 95 % of black lives matter protests were peaceful. There were 10600 demonstration events which leaves us with 500 riots. A massive number.

Results:

- Worsening of race relations

- Billions of dollars in damage

- Numerous stores and businesses, predominantly owned by black and latino Americans, destroyed. Those people, the very same we were told the riots were for, had their lives ruined in the name of social justice. Or do you think insurance reimburses all the damage and in a timely fashion? Years of hard work ruined. We know from past riots it takes decades for neighborhoods to recover.

- Almost 50 people died, can't recall the exact number. I think 47

- 9 million extra Trump votes and a doubling of his latino and black vote

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by roenxi »

jimkleiber wrote: post #111
mc32 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ransacking through the capitol like imbeciles was very ill advised, but that’s not how a coup is executed. You need dedicated backers [cause oriented willing to sacrifice] high up in the armed forces as well as the intelligentsia. Rag tag groups do not execute coups. That’s a willful exaggeration and further evidence of how narratives tilt people’s thinking. This is the media and social media calling it that -they ca…

I think sometimes we judge events based on the outcomes not on the intent. If one of those people who got inside the building gained access to one of the members of Congress or Vice President Pence and took them hostage or harmed them, would you think that it were closer to a coup attempt? There were reports of how the National Guard seemed to be getting delayed because of not having the approval of, I believe, the P…

For starters, a right-wing coup that kicked off by taking outgoing-VP Pence hostage would be beyond ridiculous. Instead of own goals we'd all be using "Pence-d" as an idiom.

If they'd taken Congresspeople hostage that would have been terrorism not a coup. The mob was totally unprepared, unimaginative, achieved no strategic outcomes and half of them are going to be in jail from now to forever. This is a coup in the same way that the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone was a succession. It is clueless protestors playing around.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by mullingitover »

vimy wrote: post #165
mullingitover wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?

They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window. We don't know if the bombs…

> Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection?

It sounds like what it is: a mob, drunk on falsehoods and weaponized against the US Capitol in hopes of intimidating congress into overturning a thoroughly litigated and settled election.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by qwerty456127 »

andrewzah wrote: post #15
mimikatz wrote: post #9

If I ran was in charge of a government after watching them all ban Trump's ability to communicate at the same time, I too would think about banning them to protect myself.

Or maybe you could do some introspection and think about what would have to lead up to you being banned? Every politician on twitter has been fine except for 1 particular individual. Nevermind that 1 individual -chose- to use twitter as their primary base of operations, instead of the usual channels.

> Nevermind that 1 individual -chose- to use twitter as their primary base of operations, instead of the usual channels.

Isn't this perfectly reasonable to switch to the modern Internet channels as time comes? Or should all the presidents keep transmitting in Morse code over cable telegraphs?

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by throwaway201103 »

tobylane wrote: post #27
ilaksh wrote: post #3

What Trump was doing was extreme, but stories like might make you think twice about enthusiasm for censorship.

What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

"If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech."

- Noam Chomsky

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by trident5000 »

mullingitover wrote: post #167
trident5000 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been listening to both sides and I dont even think people understand where this stems from and why some people want answers. Phil Waldron's testimony is one of them https://youtu.be/rri6flxaXww?t=4924

I'm not watching any more debunked conspiracy theories, thanks. They've had their numerous days in court.

And here is the issue and why the sides cannot understand whats going on.

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by vimy »

mullingitover wrote: post #173
vimy wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window. We don't know if the bombs…

> Then most of them just stood there, unsure what to do. They even stayed inside the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall, like a bunch of tourists. Does that sounds like an armed insurrection? It sounds like what it is: a mob, drunk on falsehoods and weaponized against the US Capitol in hopes of intimidating congress into overturning a thoroughly litigated and settled election.

Exactly, a mob drunk on falsehoods trying to intimidate representatives. Like those protests above I linked. Glad we finally agree. :)

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by EdwardMSmith »

vimy wrote: post #165
mullingitover wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't recall the time when armed insurrectionists with guns, bombs, and zip ties attempted to execute the Vice President when the left did it, can you share some links?

They weren't armed, they had to pass the secret service checks to get to the Trump rally area. Then marched straight from there to the capitol. Maybe there were some guns from others that didn't come from the rally, I don't know. I only know the only one that used a gun was the capitol police on an unarmed protestor. She was shot without warning while trying to climb through a door window. We don't know if the bombs…

This is horrible:

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1347749675777011714...

Re: Ugandan government blocks Google Play Store, Apple App Store, and YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

tobylane wrote: post #27
ilaksh wrote: post #3

What Trump was doing was extreme, but stories like might make you think twice about enthusiasm for censorship.

What if I’m enthusiastically against censorship and enthusiastically for deplatforming in cases like Trump? Which makes me strongly dislike the news in the post.

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