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Re: Gmail having issues

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In lieu of an actual Googler, how about some educated speculation? It blows my mind that Google can even have problems like this. Aren't their apps highly distributed across tons of CDNs? Don't they have world class Devops people that roll out changes in a piecemeal fashion to check for bugs? How exactly can they have an issue that can affect a huge swath of their customers across countries? Insight appreciated.

I didn't know being a programming contest script kiddie and grinding leetcode all day automagically makes you a world class Devops, just cz you got into Google.

Your contribution has greatly enhanced this conversation, thank you.

Re: Gmail having issues

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post #168

Side note - why don't google status updates contain a timezone. You'd think that they'd have some awareness of you know...global business...many users in many timezones. > We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 10:30 PM

I bet it adjusts for time zone automatically, as I see:

> We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 5:30 PM

Re: Gmail having issues

#173

Any email sent to my gmail is getting permanently bounced. Says my email does not exist at gmail.

Now think about if some gmail accounts got Thanos snapped out of existence. What kind of digital death would that be as you would NEVER be able to recover your accounts, at least for most people who don't have 2FA.

Re: Gmail having issues

#175

If this had happened on self hosted email server, people would be claiming "this is why you don't self-host email". My company self hosts email and we have never had an outage of this sort. ever. All support emails to gmail accounts are now bouncing for us. It's also been more than 2 hours since this problem started.

If everyone who uses Gmail hosted their own email servers those people would suffer far more and far worse outages that Google has had.

Re: Gmail having issues

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post #168

Side note - why don't google status updates contain a timezone. You'd think that they'd have some awareness of you know...global business...many users in many timezones. > We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 10:30 PM

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Re: Gmail having issues

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post #168

Side note - why don't google status updates contain a timezone. You'd think that they'd have some awareness of you know...global business...many users in many timezones. > We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 10:30 PM

I bet it adjusts for time zone automatically, as I see: > We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 5:30 PM

I hate that even more as I can never know if they adjusted it correctly or not, even more so if I've traveled recently or used a VPN.

Re: Gmail having issues

#178

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I wonder if Gmail is just not a very well maintained codebase. Here's an issue where old emails just become inaccessible. Not fixed for over a year and they've locked the thread so I'm starting to wonder if they actually deleted the emails by mistake. https://support.google.com/mail/thread/6187016 Maybe time to switch to a more reliable provider.

> Not fixed for over a year and they've locked the thread so I'm starting to wonder if they actually deleted the emails by mistake. Did you try pulling them down using the API tester?: https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/reference/rest/v1/us... Some of the internal formatting that Gmail uses has changed over the years, so more likely than not the API that parses the stored message for display in the Gmail UI is j…

I've never had issues over IMAP with old (decade) message in gmail

Re: Gmail having issues

#179

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'Their' works fine and has been gender-neutral English for ages.

His and her no longer correlates to biological sex, so what does it matter anymore. Pronouns can mean whatever you want them to mean.

It's about not being a fucking asshole to people because you want to stand on [your own stupid] principle.

If you make an honest mistake and somebody attacks/humiliates/whatevers you for it, they're the asshole. If you can't manage to have some bare minimum consideration for somebody who is their own person just as much as you are, you are the asshole. I see both of the above happening pretty regularly these days.

This stuff is a real gimme, so really the most charitable interpretation of your comment is that you are being disingenuous for edginess' sake.

Re: Gmail having issues

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post #168

Side note - why don't google status updates contain a timezone. You'd think that they'd have some awareness of you know...global business...many users in many timezones. > We will provide an update by 12/15/20, 10:30 PM

At the bottom: "All times are shown in your local timezone unless otherwise noted."
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