I used to work on Google Cloud UI. Short answer is: Google Cloud org is very unlike Google. It's more like IBM or Oracle. A lot of managers and engineers are from those companies.
Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
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#172And of course, Google gives demerit points to websites that load slowly. (Or whatever they are called)
This isn't really a public page, though. Their landing page loads really quickly.
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#173Google's UI's in general are shockingly slow. I don't understand why my Google Drive and Gmail have input lag and choppy animations on my 5 year old xps13, it's not that hard to make navigating a filesystem or list of emails fast. Actually I do understand, it's because they want everything they build to be made in a massive javascript framework with shared components, which looks nice but runs like garbage on anythin…
It's all slow because it can be. People will put up with it because they have a virtual monopoly on all these free cloud services. What are people going to do, go back to saving locally and use something like LibreOffice?
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think I agree with you here. Make Cloud UI fast is probably not their priority. This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. They will wait. Integrity/Security would be much higher on the list than UI loading speed. Not surprising at all.
>This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. Shouldn't this be the opposite? Maybe this is just me but if I have to use something to do my actual job and it take more time that it should because of the UI I'd look elsewhere.
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Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
#175I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…
Yep its simple
The more money you make, the better of a person you are, in literally every way - this is known as rule 1. So if the highest paid people work for FAANG, they must be the best people, so obviously the best humanity can do is 5 seconds to load a spinner.
At my lowly serf job, we are only able to make a web app that usually responds in <1s with a total of 8 low paid, middling, dull engineers working on many other things at the same time.
Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
#176I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…
I don't think I agree with you here. Make Cloud UI fast is probably not their priority. This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. They will wait. Integrity/Security would be much higher on the list than UI loading speed. Not surprising at all.
I don't know. GSuite admin panels used to be pretty fast in the early days --now it can become frustrating to use.
Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
#177I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…
I don't think I agree with you here. Make Cloud UI fast is probably not their priority. This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. They will wait. Integrity/Security would be much higher on the list than UI loading speed. Not surprising at all.
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Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
#178I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…
It's not the best they can do. It's the best they will do. There are companies with higher (arguably actually acceptable) quality standards, but they're few and far between.
It's not the best they can do.
Without seeing them do better there's no way to actually know that. You're assuming they're capable, but you could be wrong.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think I agree with you here. Make Cloud UI fast is probably not their priority. This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. They will wait. Integrity/Security would be much higher on the list than UI loading speed. Not surprising at all.
>This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. Shouldn't this be the opposite? Maybe this is just me but if I have to use something to do my actual job and it take more time that it should because of the UI I'd look elsewhere.
Can you look elsewhere? Most _users_ of Google Cloud are not the decision makers and can't move to, say, AWS.
Consumers can more easily make that choice since they're not part of a hierarchy.
Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?
#180I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…
This isn’t tied directly to ads/revenue/profit. Make it more obviously profitable to have it fast and you will see what the best they can do is..