Good job GitHub and Microsoft!
YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
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Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have become convinced that the RIAA lawyers emerge from their crypts every few years, generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee.
This software makes it easy for people to download copyrighted movies and the RIAA attorneys (at least some) are acting in good faith to prevent people from breaking copyright law and causing their client damages. Can someone argue against me please? (genuinely contribute to discussion by arguing against my own biases, call me a moron instead of downvoting)
Even if we take that as a given, my response would be: "Yes, so what?"
The software also a long list of legitimate uses, as was demonstrated by the various prominent users that spoke up.
I can use the camera on my phone to record a copyrighted movie, and thus circumventing the DRM, or just use a device like this: https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-USB3HDCAP-Video-Capture-... (analog VGA is probably preferred here, for lack of HDCP support).
And that is only necessary if we're talking about some modern DRM that makes your OS work against you, so you can't directly capture with OBS or something.
We're gonna ban all of those now?
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have become convinced that the RIAA lawyers emerge from their crypts every few years, generating a slew of copystrikes to justify their retainer fee.
This software makes it easy for people to download copyrighted movies and the RIAA attorneys (at least some) are acting in good faith to prevent people from breaking copyright law and causing their client damages. Can someone argue against me please? (genuinely contribute to discussion by arguing against my own biases, call me a moron instead of downvoting)
Creating or providing a tool and using a tool are not the same action. Likewise, since there are legal fair use scenarios of copyrighted materials (short clips, criticism, satire, academic, etc) so even using the tool isn't inherently against the law and the person creating or providing the tools can't know and legally doesn't need to know the end user's intentions.
Copyright lawyers working for the highest profile abuser of copyrights absolutely know the very basics of copyright law and are therefore acting in bad faith.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#174GitHub is still hosting the full youtube-dl version history, including versions which include those supposedly infringing tests. Does copyright law end with HEAD on master? Those tests are still there. This makes it especially obvious that the RIAA's problem with youtube-dl was never really the tests.
> Does copyright law end with HEAD on master? I think the RIAAs technical know-how ends with the github web interface, so in a way, yes, copyright effectively ends with HEAD.
Then when someone realizes to use the web interface to check out that old commit, the whole thing opens up again. Hopefully github's lawyers who OK'd this know a bit about git.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#175Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#176From the irc screenshot that was linked further down this thread [1], it reads that the "cipher circumvention code" needed to be removed? I can only see some rework being done in the past related to the extractors. [2] So they gave up on this one, or is there more to come? [1]: https://twitter.com/t3rr4dice/status/1320660235363749888 [2]: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commit/2de2ca6659a18b...
They don't need to remove the cipher circumvention code, because there is no cipher circumvention code
https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-yo...
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
And not even purged from the repo, it's still in the history if needed. Seems like the copyright holders making a big fuss over nothing really.
I wonder if RIAA lawyers believe themselves productive members of society, or if they recognize themselves as the parasites they are.
I mean, if we believe it benefits us to have copyright laws, then obviously it benefits us to have copyright lawyers, and the rest is just implementation details. I'd wager 99% of people believe copyright laws are a net good.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#178Can someone with more knowledge on the matter help explain why downloading copyrighted material using youtube-dl as opposed to a browser is treated differently under the DMCA? In either case you're accessing copyrighted material by downloading from youtube's servers.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if RIAA lawyers believe themselves productive members of society, or if they recognize themselves as the parasites they are.
This line of questioning on Startup News is quite amusing to me, I must say. How many of us can really pretend to make society a better place?
Not everyone here is directly involved in the startup culture and yes, technology and disruption can get shady. But "at least I'm not a lawyer" is a low, low bar to clear.
Re: YouTube-dl's repository has been restored
#180Pleasantly surprised here.