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Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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I don't know if this will be a big success, but if it is, I think ARM will take over a large amount of server/cloud market.

> but if it is, I think ARM will take over a large amount of server/cloud market.

Seeing as how Apple has zero presence in the server/cloud market, how do you figure? Are you hoping they bring back xserve?

Otherwise I don't see how Apple having a custom power-efficient chip in a laptop is going to do anything at all in the server/cloud market?

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really, 16GB max? I find it very strange how Apple went from targeting professionals, seeing the strategy work from the ground up for many years, but now somehow want to pivot to hobbyists/others instead of professionals. Could someone try to help me figure out the reasoning behind Apple changing the target customer?

This is their 13" model. Their 15" model is targeted for professionals.

Both have a 16 GB limitation.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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16GB max it looks like.

huge own-goal on Apple's part. It would be literally impossible for me to use this machine to do my job. I guess I'll have to wait until M2. Edit: If it wasn't clear, this was not a joke. I develop a relatively heavyweight service on the JVM, and between my IDE, the code I run, and all the gradle build daemon stuff, I regularly use up more than 32GB. Often over 50GB. (Although some swap is tolerable, having the major…

Is there even a JVM available for darwin-armv8 ?

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

The 13" MacBook Pro has an option to upgrade to 32.

Intel's MacBook Pro 13" is still available for purchase with 32GB upgrade. The M1 is capped at 16GB.

edit: spelling

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

SSD performance with their integrated IO controller might close the gap here, the same way that pretty fast storage on their iPhones makes the lack of RAM there not so debilitating. But yeah, agreed that not having a 32GB option is somewhat disappointing. (sent from my MacBook Pro with 32GB of RAM)

mmmmm yeah, I will let you all be the guinea pigs here and check back next month.

I am very curious about the performance.

If the macbook air is editing 6k videos and scrubbing smoothly, I am optimistic.

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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I don't get it. If we have same CPU on MacbookAir and MacbookPro - why would I get more expensive "Pro"? Can someone explain how is Pro faster than Air with same CPU? Also, the "Windows Guy" bit is a bit lame IMO. I have two MacBooks and one custom built PC. The PC is faster than both MacBooks combined.

Discrete GPU

Re: Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers

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Max 16GB of RAM on these new machines is really not that great to be honest. The mini supported up to 64GB before.

iPhone has typically had lower specs while outperforming its competitors in benchmarks. I think the integration goes a long way toward efficiency.
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