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Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by tester34 »

Orphis wrote: post #169
tester34 wrote: post #158

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The only software that gets vide-co right is probably Discord I used MS Teams and zoom and both are decent (ms teams works fine for school) but it's insanely unbelievable that this kind of software lacks of features that gaming communities had probably 20 years ago PUSH TO TALK is probably one of the most important features of any voice software. The lack of it is big WTF. It gives you 100% control over when you're t…

For push to talk to work, you need to have access to keys even when you're not in focus. That's not something doable today on the web for obvious security reasons, but it's possible for Discord that has a separate app, would be doable for Zoom too I guess.

MS Teams, Discord, Skype and all older stuff like Ventrilo, TeamSpeak and Mumble - all were (and are) avaliable on Desktop.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by emartinelli »

tjpnz wrote: post #168
neilpanchal wrote: post #32

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

Speaking of mute/unmute I've not yet found a way to get Google Hangouts (same thing as Meet?) to play nice in situations where simultaneous interpretation is involved. Our company works in Japanese and English and we typically have a second meeting running in parallel for interpretation. This setup almost works, I say almost because I've yet to find a way of muting the audio in one meeting so I can properly listen to…

Right click on the tab -> "Mute site".

It works for me for Chromium on Ubuntu.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by lima »

kerng wrote: post #61

Interesting that this post made it to #1. It seems like Google marketing trick. Anyone who uses the blue realizes that it's far lacking in quality from other offerings and Google Meet UI is very bad also. Zoom, Teams, even WebEx are superior quality and usability wise.

Curious to hear why? Google Meet is the only web-based videoconferencing product that works well for us without audio dropouts or random issues.

Zoom's web client is particularly terrible, and we can't install the desktop client for security reasons.

And the new background noise cancellation feature is magic.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by aaronharnly »

TacoSteemers wrote: post #70
neilpanchal wrote: post #32

Aside: Imagine you’re driving down the road and you need to make a right turn. Well, for some reason the steering wheel is stowed away and disappeared! You need to hover your hand around the center console in a specific area to be able to expose it. Out comes the steering wheel and now you can make a right turn. Google UX/UI team: Please fucking make the mute/unmute button visible at all times.

I have similar problems with Zoom. The mute/unmute changes position and can be hidden in a top bar that slides out. In some fullscreen situations there is no button to get out of fullscreen. Sometimes double-click works, sometimes it doesn't. Recently I could not even alt-tab away, basically my computer got 'locked' by zoom. https://tacosteemers.com/articles/2020-10-16-ux-anti-pattern...

Every time I go into Present mode in Zoom, it’s panic-inducing. Where the hell did everyone else go? How do I mute? It’s frustrating.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by tjpnz »

emartinelli wrote: post #172
tjpnz wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of mute/unmute I've not yet found a way to get Google Hangouts (same thing as Meet?) to play nice in situations where simultaneous interpretation is involved. Our company works in Japanese and English and we typically have a second meeting running in parallel for interpretation. This setup almost works, I say almost because I've yet to find a way of muting the audio in one meeting so I can properly listen to…

Right click on the tab -> "Mute site". It works for me for Chromium on Ubuntu.

The problem with that is it mutes the whole domain. I still want to listen to one of the meetings.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by aaronharnly »

kosinus wrote: post #85
oars wrote: post #71

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M is taken by minimise, hence the next closest thing is D (for deaf).

But ⌘D is also 'add bookmark' on Mac, at least. So depending on which UI element inside Chrome is focussed, it may not do what you want either. I've been using this extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-meet-push-t...

Nice, thanks. I have a lot of Meets hanging around in my bookmarks thanks to the focus being slightly wrong when I press command-D.

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Post by blep-arsh »

roel_v wrote: post #143
jcims wrote: post #81

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I imagine most know this by now but the space bar works as a push to talk button in Zoom (as long as it has focus of course). I really think there is a market for a physical video conference controller. If I could get a hefty slab of something with quality buttons to enable/disable video, push to talk/mute/unmute, bring to foreground, ‘on air’ light and end call, I’d easily pay $100 for it.

These exist, e.g. the Elgato Stream Deck. It's basically a keypad with x buttons (there are various versions) that each are small lcd displays that you can program to show and do anything you want (so you can make it do the 'on air' display thing you mention). Its main use case is for streamers to switch between scenes in their streaming software, but I use it for video conferencing (with OBS's virtual camera) to swi…

Is it possible to use it to control a Zoom session without virtualizing the audio/video input devices? Discord has a local API for that but I haven't found a way to control Zoom calls from another app.

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Post by sumedh »

toper-centage wrote: post #120
senectus1 wrote: post #11

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Hangouts is EOL :-( We're being herded into the new more useless products.

Hangouts was always terrible and bloated. I miss Google Talk. Instead, we get something more terrible and bloated than Hangouts.

Instead of focussing on Google Talk we have at least 5 different Apps from Google pretty much doing the same thing.

Re: Background Features in Google Meet, Powered by Web ML

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Post by virgilp »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #157
virgilp wrote: post #140

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the range of problems you can solve with ML/AI is simply too wide for there to be fully-canned solutions for everything. Sure, there will be canned solutions for _some_ things - maybe even for cat detection, because it's fun so why not. But, a library that uses AI to optimize the production of your business' flux capacitors? Ain't gonna happen, you need to build that yourself. To have a library/product that solves pr…

Mm, it's a bit like arguing that "the range of text editor customization is simply too wide for there to be fully-canned solutions for everything." Meanwhile, elisp wiki go brr. I think ML solutions will increasingly take the form of an elisp script rather than a python library, but it'll take a little while to get there.

> it's a bit like arguing that "the range of text editor customization is simply too wide for there to be fully-canned solutions for everything."

But the the range of editor customization really isn't that wide. That's exactly what I'm arguing, that ML/AI is more like "math" than like "editor customization".

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