All the jobs I failed to get • Hacker News Board

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#171

Post by worldmerge » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 5:06 PM UTC

commandertso wrote: post #37

worldmerge wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for this. I recently graduated in May with a bachelors in CS and looking at LinkedIn has been very discouraging. I know it's unhealthy to compare yourself to others but it's hard, especially when you see a lot of other people having success. Before the pandemic I was banking on going to EYEO and SIGGRAPH to network with people in the creative technology space to break into it (my goal is to be a creative te…

Hang in there! I’ve had a long career in technology, and for most of it I was doing project and product management, with some light coding on my own time as a hobby. Five years ago I’d finally had it with all that and went to a great coding boot camp. I did end up landing a job after that, but it was a grueling experience to go back to zero in finding jobs. Comparing yourself to others can be incredibly draining. Not…

Hi! Thank you so much for your comment, it means a lot! Thank you.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#172

Post by andi999 » Sun, Sep 20, 2020, 8:11 PM UTC

creata wrote: post #125

andi999 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats not the point. I think it is possibly harmful to focus on recursion in teaching and interviews. (Of course if the understanding is, that you do not use it in real life, then its ok, but still why not test people on skills they need for the job; its like making people jump through hoops for a swimmers position). Of course I will be embarressed soon, when it is only me who doesnt use recursion in production. :-)

I don't know what goes on in the minds of interviewers, but if I had to guess, they use recursion to test the interviewee's ability to reason inductively --- which, of course, is necessary for writing even simple loops. Maybe a question about loop invariants might be a good replacement. Regardless, yes, I doubt many people write a lot of recursive functions, since the data structures people use tend to either be flat…

The data structures people use are choosen by people. So it is a choice to have flat datastructures (probably by people how see the diadvantages of recursion)

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#173

Post by Wintereise » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 12:24 AM UTC

Seeing posts like these, I feel incredibly grateful to have a personal network that I've never really had to go beyond in search of a job.

Networking in the early years as a young founder paid off big time.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#174

Post by jimbokun » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 1:50 PM UTC

andi999 wrote: post #138

jimbokun wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can take a problem where I'm thinking of a recursive solution as the interviewer, but you can come up with an iterative solution and explain why you think it's better, I would give you full marks.

Tell me, how many recursive functions are in your companies code base. (Or course you might not be allowed to tell; but do you know the number?)

No idea, I know I've written a few.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#175

Post by brogrammernot » Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 6:04 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #63

brogrammernot wrote: post #45

GoDaddy rejected me a year after I applied and only realized it when a recruiter was trying to input me into their system. I took great pride in informing her that a) I made more than their proposed offer and b) I’d never work for a company who couldn’t operate with basic human decency in their recruiting process. Because of that experience, I make it a point that every single candidate deserves a yes or no response…

> GoDaddy rejected me a year after I applied and only realized it when a recruiter was trying to input me into their system. I don't understand this bit. Did the recruiter input your info in their system and then the system send you a rejection email?

Yep lol. They added me as a “prospect” as they were trying to poach me and then I got the email. My best guess is that some sort of automated process picked up a rejection email or an email was queued in the system so when the new recruiter tried to send me an email with info via whatever tool they use it triggered it to send as well

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#176

Post by password4321 » Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 1:26 AM UTC

Balgair wrote: post #110

caseysoftware wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I was banking on going to EYEO and SIGGRAPH to network with people in the creative technology space to break into it The secret to networking is to "network" when you don't need anything. If you meet people in your (intended) field, get to know them, learn, learn, learn, and generally establish yourself - even a little - before you need it, you'll be 100x better off when you do. If you wait until you need it, you c…

I think the old saying goes something like: When you want money, ask for advice. When you want advice, ask for money.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=if%20you%20want%20money%20ask%...

4AE9C835E02ACB9F1F6CEA2136B1063AB33AE8D9055AE13C6D6D121B9F575972

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#177

Post by andi999 » Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 12:02 PM UTC

jimbokun wrote: post #174

andi999 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell me, how many recursive functions are in your companies code base. (Or course you might not be allowed to tell; but do you know the number?)

No idea, I know I've written a few.

Thanks. How did you take tje stack size into consideration?

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#178

Post by ido » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 9:01 AM UTC

andi999 wrote: post #177

jimbokun wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea, I know I've written a few.

Thanks. How did you take tje stack size into consideration?

I would guess they'd try to use tail call recursion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tail_call

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#179

Post by juancn » Wed, Sep 23, 2020, 11:37 PM UTC

I've never been rejected in a job I interviewed for, but I tend to stay a long time once I find one I like. Is that so unusual?

I'm really picky about jobs. I hardly never interview unless I think we're going to be a good match (me and the job) and that there's something I can bring to the table.

Re: All the jobs I failed to get

#180

Post by thebradbain » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 3:59 PM UTC

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #153

thebradbain wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Most of the new-grads I know, many with no prior full-time experience, make around $120k, and of the 9 I regularly keep up with only 1 works at a FAANG (and makes a decent amount more than $120k). The others range from startups to BigCo fintech to backhouse software role in legacy Fortune 500s. Granted, most of these jobs are on the coasts, though (but not SF)

> Most of the new-grads I know Only about 1/4 of US adults have an accredited 4-year degree. Just being a new grad is already a huge credential. Still, that credential doesn't generally generate $120k, for any major. Where did these new grads get their degrees? My guess is that your personal social circle has a certain pedigree that isn't the norm.

A small liberal arts college (I only bring this up to push back against the common idea on this forum that you need to be Ivy/Stanford/MIT/Caltech to get into a top FAANG or consulting job or law/medical program -- first careers like these were the rule at my school, not the exception. And many were hired with one of those "useless" liberal arts degrees rather than a degree in the specific field they went in to.