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Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dividedbyzero »

IgorPartola wrote: post #164
t0mbstone wrote: post #57

I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

I’ve been running the betas for a few weeks. The only issue I had was the calendar app not updating the month label as you scroll. Some potentially weird performance glitches that didn’t impede anything I was doing and got ironed out in later betas. Overall, easiest iOS upgrade so far. But I totally get where you are coming from. I have a horror story about several conservative versions of iOS that would constantly r…

Would you mind sharing what the culprit was? This sounds really curious.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by coldtea »

kelnos wrote: post #129
Sangeppato wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, on Android you don't have to worry about updates because you don't get them. (Coming from an Android user)

Pick a manufacturer that gives you timely updates with a support duration you're happy with, and you're fine. And before you complain "it's insane that I have to do that", you've already done that: just you picked Apple. The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing. It's not, and can't and won't be. Buy a Google phone, or a Samsung phone, or whatever, and stick with a manufac…

>And before you complain "it's insane that I have to do that", you've already done that: just you picked Apple.

So the manufacturer with the longest update period, whose products also retain the most resale price to boot?

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

kelnos wrote: post #129
Sangeppato wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, on Android you don't have to worry about updates because you don't get them. (Coming from an Android user)

Pick a manufacturer that gives you timely updates with a support duration you're happy with, and you're fine. And before you complain "it's insane that I have to do that", you've already done that: just you picked Apple. The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing. It's not, and can't and won't be. Buy a Google phone, or a Samsung phone, or whatever, and stick with a manufac…

> The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing.

Well, the Android branding is all over the place. No one thinks “I’m going to switch to Samsung”. It’s “I’m going to switch to Android”. Android phones are commodity devices.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by coldtea »

rdschouw wrote: post #122
t0mbstone wrote: post #57

I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

Same. Whenever Apple announces a new major version, it’s time for me to disable auto-update on all my Apple devices. iOS 13 was particularly bad and I waited until January. I hope they did a better job with 14.

What exactly problems do people have with iOS 13?

I always here some complains here and there. but, as with Catalina, never had any issue. Is it specific apps?

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by grugagag »

ghostpepper wrote: post #86
philshem wrote: post #24

Faithful iPhone SE (1st gen) user checking in. Thankful to still be in the club. This will likely our last.

If you're hanging onto it, like me, because it's small and not because it's cheap, there are rumours that the launch of the iPhone 12 in October will include a 5.4" model. It would be the smallest they've released since the original SE, and will have flat edges too.

I'm holding onto mine because it still meets my needs, very well I would say. Why upgrade when I really don't need to? Second, I've grown to know Apple and am sure they will add improvements to the new model, probably fantastic improvements but but they will probably take something away as well, something that I am using now and don't want to be forced to change. I don't know what, maybe the phones jack or something. I am not buying a phone without the jack (no dumb dongles please). However, if all is good after the 12 is released and nothing is taken away I'll consider upgrading when my current SE no longer works.

I'm actually planning to use my phone less and less because I am trapped bad habits and that results in unnecessarily wasted time.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by giovannibajo1 »

hnarn wrote: post #120
SamuelAdams wrote: post #79

From the update: "Option to set your default email and web browser". Finally!

It’s a step in the right direction, but honestly, what’s really the point when all browsers are just wrappers around Safari anyway.

That’s a tech-centric view. For most people a browser is defined by its features like tab handling, account syncing, preferences, extensions, etc. Nobody cares about the HTML engine, only developers. The fact that it’s possible to change the default browser is an important user-level feature.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Hnaomyiph »

kelnos wrote: post #129
Sangeppato wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, on Android you don't have to worry about updates because you don't get them. (Coming from an Android user)

Pick a manufacturer that gives you timely updates with a support duration you're happy with, and you're fine. And before you complain "it's insane that I have to do that", you've already done that: just you picked Apple. The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing. It's not, and can't and won't be. Buy a Google phone, or a Samsung phone, or whatever, and stick with a manufac…

Is there an android device manufacturer that is currently supporting a 5 year old phone? I'm on the iPhone 6s, which released in 2015, and just installed iOS 14. Android phones seem to be a 2~ year lifespan, even Google's own devices. Having switched from a Nexus 5, which got just two years of major Android updates. (Which also slowed to the point of being unusable, and eventually completely breaking with boot loops and then bricking itself)

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by ebg13 »

knolan wrote: post #3

No sign of it here yet. I’m curious if it fixed some of the unpleasant behaviour and bugs that were never fixed in iOS 13. Things like Mail not displaying new emails properly unless your went out and back into the mailbox. The keyboard autocorrecting to random names aggressively and inserting capital letters if you dare move the cursor. All new behaviours introduced with iOS 13 that adversely affect the user experien…

My favorite is that calling someone with facetime disconnects you from the wifi unless you go into airplane mode.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by johnknowles »

racl101 wrote: post #144
johnknowles wrote: post #128

"Powerful Updates to Messages", lol. Apple hasn't put an ounce of power into messaging. It's been 10 years, and they haven't innovated at all in the message space in any meaningful way (no, Memoji is not a meaningful extension of the messaging space). It's sad to see the lack of energy to actually create powerful and useful software, rather than to doing the bare minimum to compete in the smartphone market.

Innovations such as ....?

Threading, better search, tagging, sharing message bits with others, temporary group messages, better in-message features, better ways to send multiple pieces of media in a singular unit, ways to spend "live" time within imessage...i could go on for awhile

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by johnknowles »

tribeca18 wrote: post #130
johnknowles wrote: post #128

"Powerful Updates to Messages", lol. Apple hasn't put an ounce of power into messaging. It's been 10 years, and they haven't innovated at all in the message space in any meaningful way (no, Memoji is not a meaningful extension of the messaging space). It's sad to see the lack of energy to actually create powerful and useful software, rather than to doing the bare minimum to compete in the smartphone market.

What's something you wish existed/suggest?

Threading, better search, tagging, sharing message bits with others, temporary group messages, better in-message features (polls, lists), better ways to send multiple pieces of media in a singular unit, ways to spend "live" time within imessage, higher-level walkie-talkie, ways to schedule messages, ways to send longer forms ("bursting the bubble"), sending rich text in messages,......
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