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Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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post #142

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I am working on it. But as a web developer this "small app" and everything that comes with it is easily hundreds of hours of work, just to clumsily recreate functionality that's already working in other browsers.

Email them? SMS Them? Its not pure notifications, but its far easier to implement.

Email would get drowned with all the other apps with the same idea, which is exactly why Apple shouldn’t allow it.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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I guess I have a minority view, but when were they not? Steve Jobs was famously toxic (which is just popular term to describe someone with a cluster B personality disorder, aka "psychopath"). But he dresses like a rock star and creates beautiful things and so everybody is willing to forgive him. This is kind of like the abused spouse who, after decades of abuse, finally realizes he or she was making excuses for a psy…

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Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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And even then, who is to say that users are going to instantaneously download your update before/during their upgrade to iOS 14 (even if they have automatic app upgrades turned on, which they might not).

Being able to point your users to an update to fix their problems when they come to you for support, or when they go to write an angry review that their app is crashing but they see “iOS 14 support” at the top of the app’s page, is likely to help there. Especially since the earliest adopters are frequently technically competent enough to do that but also frequently demanding enough that their apps work on day one.

So, maybe you can get to it in a couple of days. Fix what you can using the old SDK before GM build becomes available. Then you have a small amount of updates once apps using the new SDK can be submitted. The app will be temporarily broken for a few days on a brand new OS until the update goes live. Is that really a big deal? The world doesn't come to an end if you get a few bad reviews from impatient users. I remember being in the mobile app development rat race and am so glad I left that world behind. Too much daily panic about things that really don't matter much.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Yeah, I guess some people decided that technical errors helping you to find what is going on are "ugly".

Mac/iOS error: App just disappears Android error: App displays error and disappears Windows error: App displays error, possibly writes to error log, dumps memory to disk, and suggests you visit a URL that provides no useful information. None of them are great, but at least Windows gives you something to search for. EDIT: Formatting

On Android, if you tap the button to report the error, it will show you a stack trace and other information that are often enough to diagnose crashes in third party apps.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Honestly, this is why we need the Web. But Apple even blocks that since they don’t allow any browser engine apart from Safari, meaning that there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications - Proper WASM support (a lot of features are missing) Honestly, at this point, the government should step in, like they did at the end of the last century with Microsoft. Walled gardens hurt inno…

Many Customers prefer a walled garden.

Exactly. Has anyone here even been in an actual walled garden?

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=walled+garden

They look like pretty fucking pleasant places to be in!

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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post #3

Honestly, this is why we need the Web. But Apple even blocks that since they don’t allow any browser engine apart from Safari, meaning that there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications - Proper WASM support (a lot of features are missing) Honestly, at this point, the government should step in, like they did at the end of the last century with Microsoft. Walled gardens hurt inno…

It boggles my mind that a company makes a fairly innocuous decision (which you would expect consumers to punish them for) like requiring all web views to use the same renderer as Safari, and there are people like you rushing to have the government jump in and regulate "the kind of rendering for web pages that a private company allows on their devices". Seems like total insanity to me and I don't understand it.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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Honestly, this is why we need the Web. But Apple even blocks that since they don’t allow any browser engine apart from Safari, meaning that there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications - Proper WASM support (a lot of features are missing) Honestly, at this point, the government should step in, like they did at the end of the last century with Microsoft. Walled gardens hurt inno…

> there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications All of those sound like things that will be abused by the majority of developers the minute they are allowed to inflict them upon users, either willingly or commanded to by their overlords in the name of ""Engagement""

I have not seen these things abused yet. The user agent prevents it.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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post #176
post #3

Honestly, this is why we need the Web. But Apple even blocks that since they don’t allow any browser engine apart from Safari, meaning that there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications - Proper WASM support (a lot of features are missing) Honestly, at this point, the government should step in, like they did at the end of the last century with Microsoft. Walled gardens hurt inno…

It boggles my mind that a company makes a fairly innocuous decision (which you would expect consumers to punish them for) like requiring all web views to use the same renderer as Safari, and there are people like you rushing to have the government jump in and regulate "the kind of rendering for web pages that a private company allows on their devices". Seems like total insanity to me and I don't understand it.

> Seems like total insanity to me and I don't understand it.

They want to tear down Apple's defenses so they can feast unhindered upon the billions of users as they are rendered helpless.

Honestly, any entity that constantly cries foul about the high bars set up by Apple, makes me very wary of any product from that entity.

Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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post #156

I guess I have a minority view, but when were they not? Steve Jobs was famously toxic (which is just popular term to describe someone with a cluster B personality disorder, aka "psychopath"). But he dresses like a rock star and creates beautiful things and so everybody is willing to forgive him. This is kind of like the abused spouse who, after decades of abuse, finally realizes he or she was making excuses for a psy…

Jobs' whole career has been: rejecting other people's work until his engineers (not him) spat out something he thought worthy. And usually he's revered more by non techs.

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Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?

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post #142

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Email them? SMS Them? Its not pure notifications, but its far easier to implement.

Email would get drowned with all the other apps with the same idea, which is exactly why Apple shouldn’t allow it.

Why Apple shouldn't allow websites to email you instead of causing those websites to create iOS apps?
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