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Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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>Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix I'm sorry, but that show was really, really dumb and unrealistic and I couldn't sit through it. 3 engineers (notably: cringey white dudes) are never following one single user and controlling his interactions like that and it did more harm than good by pretending it works that way. This implies someone is directly accountable, showing up to work every day and fucking with people'…

They weren't engineers. It was shows attempt to humanize the algorithm. I agree it was cringy but the shows intent wasn't bad.

We don't humanize statistical methods or other math formulas in similar fashions, we (should) blame the people that wield them irresponsibly.

The show, up until I stopped watching, felt like slow-rolling click bait.

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They don’t get a commission for the sale of the Fortnight software, or for marketing Fortnight on their own dime; do you believe that they don’t deserve to get any commissions for providing Fortnight a platform and publicity?

As a developer, I have no desire for Apple to market my software for me. Fortunately for me, Apple has never chosen to highlight and market my software for me. Unfortunately for me, they’re still taking 30% of the revenue for distribution alone, and there’s absolutely no way that’s fair, given that I can self distribute on every other platform for about 4%. I already have a cloud footprint as my apps depend on it. Th…

> I have no desire for Apple to market my software for me

Yet you do have a desire for it to run on Apple's hardware, under Apple's OS. And thus you have a desire to do business with them. That you disagree with their rules for doing business by itself doesn't make them the bad guy.

They're offering many of the same terms offered by Microsoft, Google (Android Play store and Stadia), and Sony after all.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple is a giant corporation with varied interests. In some areas they align with consumers (they’re not heavily in advertising... yet) while in others their anti-competitive behavior is harmful. Writing these impassioned posts like you’re defending the decisions of your favorite sports team that can do no wrong... oof.

Given that Android supports side loading, what’s the most obvious harm Apple customers are getting with only the App Store? For example, are iOS customers routinely left behind while the Android ecosystem is vibrant? Are iOS customers getting noticeably inferior bang for their buck?

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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As a developer, I have no desire for Apple to market my software for me. Fortunately for me, Apple has never chosen to highlight and market my software for me. Unfortunately for me, they’re still taking 30% of the revenue for distribution alone, and there’s absolutely no way that’s fair, given that I can self distribute on every other platform for about 4%. I already have a cloud footprint as my apps depend on it. Th…

> I have no desire for Apple to market my software for me Yet you do have a desire for it to run on Apple's hardware, under Apple's OS. And thus you have a desire to do business with them. That you disagree with their rules for doing business by itself doesn't make them the bad guy. They're offering many of the same terms offered by Microsoft, Google (Android Play store and Stadia), and Sony after all.

This is the mistake, as a developer I want my app to run on your hardware, and the hardware of millions of others, it hardware that you happen to have bought from apple, but it's no longer theirs, and if you want to run my app, and I want you to, that should be our choice, not Apples.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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What are you on about? The show is about how Apps are made addicitve regardless of race, why are you pulling the race card when the tech is indiscriminant? Its like saying I shouldn't watch a documentary on the NBA cause the documentary is not diverse enough, where are all the brown, white, yellow people at? xD

>when the tech is indiscriminant It sometimes isn't, but why did they put 3 white dudes in charge of messing with someone's life when they know that's the prevailing stereotype of SV engineers? Could it be that they were trying to capitalize on that stereotype for shock value? I'd think so.

> why did they put 3 white dudes in charge of messing with someone's life

Maybe because they earnt their position through merit? Maybe because white males are still a majority of the work force in Google, Facebook, and may more? The probability of picking 3 random senior people who are white are not that slim.

I as an Asian man take issue that just because you see white people in the show and automatically assume what the show has to say is not representative of whats happening in the Ad-industry. You could literally replace any color of race and claim it is not representative and disregard the bigger message here. This is a classic reverse-racism.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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but Gruber's post is certainly implying as much. > That’s exactly what Apple is doing — giving users awareness over what is going on, and control over it.

That doesn't imply that everything Apple does is good, it states that in this case Apple is doing good.

The two are not mutually exclusive, and stating a general practice ("giving ... control over it") without further criticisms or clarifications in a given post is exactly what creates a general implication.

I'm not really here to debate. You can disagree, but considering John's well-discussed pro-Apple bias (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9345312), it seems others agree that his writing often goes out of its way to frame Apple in more of a positive light than Apple likely deserves.

It's fine to praise specific actions, but Gruber's known for praising Apple so much that his Apple critiques tend to make news for how rare they are.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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>when the tech is indiscriminant It sometimes isn't, but why did they put 3 white dudes in charge of messing with someone's life when they know that's the prevailing stereotype of SV engineers? Could it be that they were trying to capitalize on that stereotype for shock value? I'd think so.

> why did they put 3 white dudes in charge of messing with someone's life Maybe because they earnt their position through merit? Maybe because white males are still a majority of the work force in Google, Facebook, and may more? The probability of picking 3 random senior people who are white are not that slim. I as an Asian man take issue that just because you see white people in the show and automatically assume wha…

>Maybe because they earnt their position through merit?

They earned the position of representing a wildly exaggerated view of how tech companies influence their users?

Give me a break, this show was just dumb. It added no value to the conversation around tech companies.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Apple seems to be on a PR offensive after a few weeks of bad press and it seems they are employing their usual bloggers to entertain the developer audience. I dunno why devs participate in this PR circus. And btw the author is wrong about comparing to facebook’s platform, which is still the most open, free to use large platform out there.

That's a bit like saying "the most open, free" jail...

Yes if course. Developers need to treat all commercial platforms with cynicism and realize that they re honeytraps. You are always allowed to eat at first but then you gotta run out asap

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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> I have no desire for Apple to market my software for me Yet you do have a desire for it to run on Apple's hardware, under Apple's OS. And thus you have a desire to do business with them. That you disagree with their rules for doing business by itself doesn't make them the bad guy. They're offering many of the same terms offered by Microsoft, Google (Android Play store and Stadia), and Sony after all.

This is the mistake, as a developer I want my app to run on your hardware, and the hardware of millions of others, it hardware that you happen to have bought from apple, but it's no longer theirs, and if you want to run my app, and I want you to, that should be our choice, not Apples.

> your hardware

This is a problem that's bigger than Apple, and it's not a problem that will be solved by allowing more stores on the phone - it won't make it somehow "your" hardware.

You can blame Apple for doing this with their phone all you want, but you're fighting against the tide with a shovel. It's an industry standard to lock hardware down to the point where they'd rather the hardware be bricked (the Nintendo Switch and its hardware fuses) than run "libre" software on it.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Their policies are only failures if you’re looking through the eyes of a conservative. The left sees the world differently than the right, and, as such, focus on different issues. To the left, Trump has been an absolute failure, but the right adores him. Who’s right? The right hates Gavin Newsom; They’re on their third recall attempt. But he wasn’t elected for no reason; He was elected because his campaign promises w…

It’s not that simple. Newsom has accomplished little of his agenda and it’s not because of “the right,” which hardly exists in California. The Democrats in California torpedoed the latest housing bill, which merely attempted to legalize duplexes statewide, evoking the apocalyptic destruction of single family neighborhoods as it’s result. The world is also not as simple as “left” and “right,” and I’ve found that it’s…

> [...] “the right,” which hardly exists in California.

“The right” make up about a third of the state[0] if the 2018 gubernatorial election is anything to go by. I wouldn’t call that “hardly exist[ing].” They may not be powerful enough to vote in who they want, but they’re there.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_...

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