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Re: Wiki.js

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Post by cxr »

fungos wrote: post #154
hundchenkatze wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think any of the mainstream open-source licenses allow you to retroactively revoke or change the license.

If they are the sole copyright owners (no external contribution) or have SLAs, they can for any future version of the software. It is not uncommon, it is just hard as most doesn't have SLA to do this.

> If they are the sole copyright owners (no external contribution)

That's not the scenario gary-kim laid out; you've failed to satisfy the constraints in the premise.

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by indigochill »

pastage wrote: post #126
indigochill wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting back into the Zettelkasten note-taking technique which is like a tech-agnostic wiki system (it was originally implemented using physical cards). I originally tried a personal wiki but it was just more tech overhead than I cared to deal with. Plain markdown files with zettelkasten are doing it for me now. Zettlr adds some nice features like adding an easy ability to tag files (just hashtags in the markdown…

I've been running wikis the last 20 years, but I too use static files for note taking, a wiki is not for everything IMHO. Zettelkasten just feel like a low tech wiki to me. Is it really that great or is it just the simplicity that makes you a convert?

I admittedly have not been using it long enough for it to come into its own (when the connections should start to do more heavy lifting). But my impression so far is that the "low tech wiki" description is essentially accurate, although since I keep all my files in one folder, I find it easier to get an overview of what topics I've already covered. I guess there's probably a page for this in most wiki systems as well, but I'm not a wiki power-user.

The reason I'm a convert is that it seems like the best of both worlds between raw note-taking and a wiki. The advantage over raw note-taking is the links that enable you to "crawl" its entirety. The advantage over a wiki is that it's tech-agnostic and you can do it however works best for you.

On the other hand, a wiki may be better for someone who wanted to embed media in their notes (such as audio recordings).

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by cxr »

oneplane wrote: post #94
normalnorm wrote: post #29

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> As it is right now it's dead in the water for any commercial usage So what? If companies need a certain software, they can pay for it. I remember a time when FOSS was not about providing companies with free work, quite the opposite indeed.

It is presented as being enterprise-ish, for organisations (of which a lot are commercial) and presents features usually useful for large companies. That's what. This isn't about good/bad or something like that, just an odd presentation that doesn't seem to be in line with the license. There is nobody to pay here to use this stuff because you still won't be able to integrate it without also sharing internal IP. There…

So it's working as intended then.

It's a bit weird to comment on this as if it's an oversight or unintended downside. Suppose you keep going into someone's house and they don't want you to, so they do something to dissuade you (like putting locks on their doors). You then complain that you can't get in. Their likely response? "Well, yeah..."

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by kontxt »

reacharavindh wrote: post #25
Keyframe wrote: post #21

I need one function in a wiki platform that I haven't seen so far. When I write text, in its WYSIWYG editor, I need an ability to paste in an image (a screenshot that I just grabbed, let's say) and for it to automatically upload it and embed it into text. Does this support something like that?

This. Thousand times this. I have been waiting for an online wiki with the usability of Apple Notes that I use locally on all my Apple devices. It works like a charm except that I cannot make it public. This is why I often take notes rather than write blog posts on my website. If the wiki software was as easy drag and drop as Apple Notes, I’d just take notes and they turn into publicly available wikis! I am yet to fi…

Kontxt (https://kontxt.io) lets you write inline highlights, comments, polls, etc, on digital content with permission based sharing. You can share full articles with your responses on it (example: https://www.kontxt.io/proxy/https://www.independent.co.uk/li...) or a summary view (example: https://www.kontxt.io/document/d/CChEtxTRf9lt3IZhuTSw1zES8Dg...). Soon we'll add a WYSIWYG editor that you can write your own content and references content from other annotated sources.

Is this the type of functionality you're looking for if it could be self-hosted? How much would you be willing to pay for such a tool?

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by kontxt »

Kontxt (https://kontxt.io) could be a perfect inline communication and engagement layer to enhance wikis and docs with inline highlights, comments, polls, @mentions, page navigation, shareable deep links, and permission-based sharing.

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by codezero »

kmill wrote: post #158
heresie-dabord wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The language and ecosystem are so full of footguns "footgun" is an excellent term. Here's an earlier use on HN, 2010: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1904960

I've wondered whether the term directly evolved from this sort of joke list that was popular to pass around on the early internet: http://www.personal.psu.edu/sxt104/program1.html

I assume it evolved not long after guns existed, and likely grew in the military :)

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by [deleted] »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #40

Slightly related PSA: Everyone should consider running a wiki locally just for yourself. It's like being able to organize your brain. I just got into it two days ago and basically spent the whole weekend dumping things into it in a way I can actually browse and revisit, like the short stories I'd written, spread out across Notes.app and random folders. You don't need to run WAMP, MySQL, Apache, phpmyadmin or anything…

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Re: Wiki.js

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Post by emiliovesprini »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #40

Slightly related PSA: Everyone should consider running a wiki locally just for yourself. It's like being able to organize your brain. I just got into it two days ago and basically spent the whole weekend dumping things into it in a way I can actually browse and revisit, like the short stories I'd written, spread out across Notes.app and random folders. You don't need to run WAMP, MySQL, Apache, phpmyadmin or anything…

I'm building my own wiki engine for my website. For now it only turns [words] into

  [words]
meaning out-of the box support for arbitrary hrefs:

  [/absolute_wiki_links]
  [relative_wiki_links]
  [https://external.links]
  [mailto:email@adress.es]
and more!

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

newsbinator wrote: post #43
Hamcha wrote: post #11

docs.requarks.io, which is said to be using Wiki.js, straight up doesn't load without Javascript, and even with Javascript enabled it's a multi-page application that just feels slower browsing page to page than your average 10-year-old mediawiki install (probably also heavier on the backend). Who exactly is asking for slower software?

It also requires a browser that supports HTML for some reason, instead of being an API you communicate with through CURL POST requests.

I was hoping for a tty interface over telnet with plain ascii output.

Re: Wiki.js

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Post by emiliovesprini »

kontxt wrote: post #175

Kontxt ( https://kontxt.io ) could be a perfect inline communication and engagement layer to enhance wikis and docs with inline highlights, comments, polls, @mentions, page navigation, shareable deep links, and permission-based sharing.

Did... did kontxt.io write this?

Oh wait yeah.

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