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Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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I always remembered walking along the Charles, really far west of the Mass Ave bridge and asking myself "why is there a Microcenter here?"

It is right next to Harvard and pretty close to MIT. There's a bunch of other larger stores in the area. Beats the one closest to Philly, which was a decent drive out of town.

It's also reasonably accessible to suburbanites and has parking.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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I saw Ron Johnson speak around 2012 in San Mateo. He oversaw the initial rise of the Apple Store. I remember him saying Jobs told him there was basically an unlimited budget to make the stores a success. The difference is it only took Apple three years to reach $1B in annual sales.

> The difference is it only took Apple three years to reach $1B in annual sales. It took far more than that to earn the trust of consumers. Microsoft decided to sit back, collect rent on Windows/Office, and let other business do the hard work of customer service and let their customers deal with malware on their laptops. Contrast with Apple, who put customer service front and center, opened stores that my parents cou…

> and let their customers deal with malware on their laptops.

They upped their game with the built in Windows Defender to the point where you don’t need third party AV because it’s rated so highly.

> Contrast with Apple, who put customer service front and center, opened stores that my parents could go to and talk to someone if they had a problem.

Like all the retail stores Microsoft opened, which people in this thread are saying provided a really good experience?

> Microsoft had all the cash in the world to make it happen. But instead, they put Candy Crush in the start menu.

Contrast with Apple who put sponsored results in the App Store and prevent you from deleting default apps in macOS Catalina? https://www.reddit.com/r/osx/comments/dfetr4/comment/f32q81e

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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It'll be interesting to see what happens when most Best Buys follow suit and we have no stores left to come in and try non-Apple products.

In some sense, this is a big window of opportunity for Dell to get smart and fix their website from looking like a warehouse dump for nerds who want the best deal and give a shit about specs, to actual customers who just to see an intuitive product line-up and extra details if and when they want that.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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The surface product lines generates a lot of interest.

Apple sells 100s of phones and iPads for each surface sold. One can't just take their store model without their context and think it will be as successful. Plus you can get a surface at any store, no need to go to a Microsoft store that sells a random assortment of a computers (not just their own) where a new user might not realize a Surface is a Microsoft product.

Sure but you don't have to be Apple successful for the physical store project to be considered successful.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20121218-00/?p=58...

that's one of the pathetic excuses I've ever read they're an OS developer and they can't spend a day figuring out a floating point bug? maybe redirect some of the time integrating Candy Crush

Windows 7 came out in 2009, at least three years before candy crush.

> they're an OS developer and they can't spend a day figuring out a floating point bug?

Maybe it’s bad to argue by appeal to authority, but I take Raymond Chen’s side that it was a hard problem to debug in the time available over some internet sneering that it must have been easy, any day.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

#176
Apparently if you're not dramatically over-charging for your consumer technology products, you can't afford brick-and-mortar locations. Those who do pay for the premium platform should realize that not (nearly) all of the additional cost goes into product quality.

Note that this discounts design superiority/inferiority.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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MS stores were created trying to emulate the success of Apple stores. However, from the get go this was a strange decision, since MS has no exclusivity on HW. Even Xbox can be purchased on other physical and online stores, sometimes at a cheaper price. They also don't provide support to a lot of this hardware, opposed to Apple that also uses stores as as service centers.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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> I made several warranty claims in-store, and they went above and beyond to help me out, even when my grounds for a claim were kinda shaky. Maybe having a physical store that lowers the barrier for making warranty claims, especially “shaky” ones, isn’t a profit maker. ;)

Maybe having a physical store that lowers the barrier for making warranty claims, especially “shaky” ones, isn’t a profit maker. Cost to fix a shaky piece of kit: $100 Future sale made because someone is happy with your service: $1,000 While I like to blame this sort of myopic thinking on SV, it seems like an entire generation, or two, has forgotten that if you make someone happy today, you've made a customer for lif…

Really? SV takes this to the extreme. The never make money, give out tons of coupons, charge super low prices, kind of strategy. If anything, SV is too far-sighted, not myopic.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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At one of the biggest malls in San Jose, there is a Microsoft Store and an Apple Store right across the hallway from each other. On a normal day, anyone walking by could see that the Apple Store was packed with people, and the bored employees at the Microsoft store were standing around with nothing to do. It was kind of sad.

It's not like Microsoft didn't have popular stuff to sell, especially the Xbox.

Re: Microsoft to permanently close its retail stores

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This is a real shame. We have (had?) a Microsoft Store in the Triangle (Raleigh-Durham), and my visits to that store were always really enjoyable. I made several warranty claims in-store, and they went above and beyond to help me out, even when my grounds for a claim were kinda shaky. Microsoft did a really good job of hiring diverse talent, and every store-clerk I ever interacted with was smart, nice, and seemed to…

I agree, but I kinda feel like the relaxed and comfortable atmosphere was more of an indication that the stores weren’t doing so hot. Every time I went to one is was because it was quieter and lower key than other stores. And I never actually wanted to buy things. Maybe that’s good(ish) marketing but probably doesn’t make good business sense.

I mean, these were obviously set up as a (marketing) counterpoint to the Apple stores, but Apple stores aren't just marketing. In any given mall, Apple stores usually have the highest revenue per square foot - they even beat out the jewelry stores. Microsoft was never going to be able to sell enough surface tables and xboxes for this to be viable long-term.
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