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Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by komali2 »

thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

> Instead i keep hearing that google engineers are going on "strike" (ie, getting company paid days off).

What's that got to do with it? Are you suggesting this is the reason things aren't shipping? I saw the "strikes" as another symptom of a company that is now deaf. Employees can't get their voices heard as individuals anymore.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by intotheabyss »

SahAssar wrote: post #144
laichzeit0 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've switched to Brave and duckduckgo. They are evil and I try avoid them at all costs. AMP is a good enough reason.

Brave is not good lifeboat if you're jumping ship.

Brave on Android is pretty damn good imo. Brave on Desktop.. Needs work

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by ogre_codes »

The adage "If you aren't paying for it, then you are the product" is a bit trite and worn out, but it in Google's case "If you aren't paying for it, you aren't the customer" is entirely accurate. While individual Google engineers are almost certainly motivated to do great things for end users, the company as a whole has little incentive to make a great consumer experience.

Google feels like it's in a very awkward "You can't get there from here" position. I think they'd like to move more towards having a direct financial relationship (Google Pixel, YouTube's ad-free service, are good examples) with their customers but can't quite figure out how to get there. Pivoting a free product like Docs into a for-fee product often creates a ton of bad feelings for a company.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by felixgallo »

EthanHeilman wrote: post #126
abc_lisper wrote: post #101

It is well known the incentives at Google are aligned at working on new features than maintaining them and keeping users happy. May be this is just a natural outcome of that. This is one of the most damaging things Google and the people it influenced did to programming profession. There is a generation of programmers now who can do very well on leetcode, but god help those who maintain that code after them - I know t…

All organizations that grow rapidly face an "Alexander bias" where the sort of incentivizes, perspectives and people that allowed them to rapidly capture territory cause them to value capturing new territory even when it is no longer possible or in their organizational interest to do so. Even when organizations identify the problem, evolving from the cult of the new to the cult of incremental improvement is always ha…

I like the "Alexander bias" term -- is that yours, or are you quoting someone else?

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by 1-6 »

testcase_delta wrote: post #147
listenallyall wrote: post #90

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There's no urgency in switching to DDG or Safari or anything Apple. There definitely IS urgency to sign up for Hey if you want an email address as simple as "billy@hey.com", instead of "william.s.1993@hey.com"

I have a really minimal/desirable gmail address and it's been only annoying. I constantly get emails from people by accident. I made my Hey address longer to avoid this.

First world email problems.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by btmiller »

thoraway1010 wrote: post #25

No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

> Instead i keep hearing that google engineers are going on "strike" (ie, getting company paid days off).

That is a really strange false equivalency. Not even the slightest bit relevant, yet it reads as if you believe that protesting for social change is a bad thing.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by monksy »

Aaronstotle wrote: post #150
freehunter wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But first they have to make their own programming languages and frameworks.

and don't forget launching an abysmal cloud gaming service that was DoA!

Goooogcorp: We have seen that you are displeased that we are not supporting product. In response we are shutting this down.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Post by MperorM »

hodgesrm wrote: post #110
loughnane wrote: post #75

I get the desire to abandon google services, and have done so myself for email and search, but there isn't much to this article. An old gmail account being noisy is probably more a function of it being old than it being a gmail account. I suspect he'd see a great improvement just starting a new email address. Airtable has some nice functionality, but I don't think it's head-and-shoulders above sheets and this article…

The article rings completely true to me. One simple example: folders in Google Drive. * It's a constant struggle to keep documents in folders so that you can find them easily. * Yeah I get that I can do google search and find docs wherever they live. But I can't find docs if I don't know that they exist. * Moreover, I can't ensure that important documents are reliably stored in folders where everyone else can find th…

I don't really understand this sentiment, here's how my drive looks:

https://i.imgur.com/UUUboTd.png

does your drive look significantly different from this?

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