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Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

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Post by terminalcommand »

m0guz wrote: post #75
badRNG wrote: post #11

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Many countries are currently ditching Windows in favor of home grown distros due to distrust of Microsoft. Notable examples: Currently transitioning: - Astra Linux (Russia) https://www.zdnet.com/article/russian-military-moves-closer-... - Kylin Linux? (China) https://www.techradar.com/news/china-to-ditch-all-windows-pc... - South Korea https://www.zdnet.com/article/south-koreas-government-explor... Already transition…

There is also Turkish government funded Pardus project [0] and has been going on since 2005. Numerous government institutions started to use it but still not enough to ditch Windows. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system)

I feel like Pardus project has lost some momentum. Maybe I feel like this because there was a lot of publicity and hype around Pardus project when I was growing up.

What interested me most is that Pardus project had its own packaged manager called PiSi, which was then adopted by Solus.

I bet Pardus project had their own reasons to adopt the apt system and rely on Debian volunteers for all packaging support. As the OS is largely maintained by a government institution, I'd imagine it doesn't have the large userbase as Debian does.

There are also some other cool projects made for Pardus, for example Zemberek, a spell checker for the Turkish language that uses natural language processing for Libreoffice and Openoffice: https://github.com/ahmetaa/zemberek-nlp

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

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dastx wrote: post #167
Wh1zz wrote: post #99

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See general state of development/corruption for all ex-soviet countries versus the rest of the developed world.

You wouldn't call a president that by all means takes from the poor, and gives it to the rich, to himself, and to children as corrupt? How about many, many senators who are doing the exact same thing? How about a prime minister that does the same? There is just as much corruption in the developed world as there is in ex-Soviet countries.

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reitanqild wrote: post #161
asjw wrote: post #153

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Honestly, it's not going great for "the greatest democracy of the world"

What I want to point out is that absolute systems (100% this or 100% that) don't work because masses of people are not 100% something

There's nothing inherently wrong in communism, it's a great idea, it's just not for everybody all the time, just like American hyper liberism is good for some and bad for many (redistribution skewed towards the richest, social injustice, expensive health care and all of that...)

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Post by coldtea »

xrisk wrote: post #91
axegon_ wrote: post #19

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Yeah, aware of those... But... I wouldn't really use most of the countries on your list to set an example for the rest of the world, if you know what I mean...

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Many here are American, and even when not, they are financially conservative startup / VC / make-it-rich kind of people...

Re: German city wants to ditch Microsoft for Linux

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rjeli wrote: post #137
xur17 wrote: post #120

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As a counter point, I've been working with Linux for the last 20 or so years, and I've gotten quite used it its quirks. It would take a lot to get me to switch at this point - I vastly prefer using it to both Windows and OSX (I used a OSX machine for 4 years at my last job, and have used Windows off and on). If Windows was free, and Linux cost $200, I'd still go with Linux. I guess my point is that a lot of the reaso…

I would pay more than the cost of an IDA license to use Linux at home :) I can't imagine not being able to cut videos on the cli with ffmpeg, reading the kernel source to understand my system, having ownership of my system in general... Haven't used Windows in a while, I've used a lot of macOS but I can't get over the recent thing about checking executable hashes against Apple servers. I get why they do it, and you c…

I tried to switch back to Windows numerous times, each time I hated that I can't just spawn a terminal window and do things on CLI. It is not impossible, but it doesn't feel right for me. Maybe if I were more acquainted with .NET libraries and powershell, I could achieve similar proficiency.

I feel like I am being suffocated when I'm using windows for development. My current solution is to keep a windows laptop for browsing/light gaming/travel, keep a Linux desktop for programming.

But we probably feel this way because we know Linux and many things are incorporated in our muscle memory. If we spent nearly equal time on Windows, it could be hard to switch back.

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