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Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by fierarul »

shade wrote: post #120
fierarul wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the above comment heavily downvoted but I'm specifically looking at 4000 series Ryzen laptops as my 1st move away from MacBook Pros. Such incredible CPUs really make the decision a bit more acceptable. The laptop I'm eyeing is near $1000.

Out of curiosity - what are you looking at? I'm also starting to think about replacing my 2016 MBP and quite honestly, the current MacBook Air/MacBook Pro line doesn't really appeal to me. Lenovo has a couple of AMD-based ThinkPads that are looking pretty appealing, although they come in around $1500 with the configuration I'd want.

Because I need a fast CPU for builds I'm looking at ASUS "gaming" laptops. The ASUS TUF Gaming A15 in particular is under $1000 before taxes here and has a good Ryzen. There are even better gaming laptops from ASUS that are thinner, but I think the A15 is a good 'workhorse'.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by fierarul »

caycep wrote: post #133
fierarul wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the above comment heavily downvoted but I'm specifically looking at 4000 series Ryzen laptops as my 1st move away from MacBook Pros. Such incredible CPUs really make the decision a bit more acceptable. The laptop I'm eyeing is near $1000.

the problem is those are second citizens for most vendors; there's some shady Intel lock in that prevents AMD from getting prime place in the lineup. So you'll get a great CPU but second rate screens, trackpads, etc.

So it would seem but the CPU might still be worth it, even if I connect it to an external display. We'll see...

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by fierarul »

ChrisLTD wrote: post #122
fierarul wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the above comment heavily downvoted but I'm specifically looking at 4000 series Ryzen laptops as my 1st move away from MacBook Pros. Such incredible CPUs really make the decision a bit more acceptable. The laptop I'm eyeing is near $1000.

What are you eyeing?

The ASUS TUF Gaming A15. It's a bit flashy but for home office it works.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by mickotron »

ancarda wrote: post #103
MintelIE wrote: post #62

Why don't companies come out and tell people what they're doing these days? Telemetry is getting to the point where people such as doctors and lawyers might be violating the law by using a modern computer. And people in the defense industry? Doesn't Apple employ thousands of forns? Who's audited their datasystems and ensured that this stuff stays private? Much easier and better to just stop using it all and move to a…

If only moving to Linux were an option for everyone. The other day I tried for the 100th time to move to Linux. I installed a recent build of a maintained, popular distribution (no it doesn't matter which one - I have tried them all), on hardware that is famous for it's Linux support. Everything worked for a day and a half, then the sound just fucking died. No input or output. I get millions of people use Linux daily…

Had various Linux distributions running on bare metal on my MacBook Pro 2011 for most of its life. It has barely had sound issues in that time. My Bluetooth headphones work best with my Linux machine, Windows 10 won't let me use both microphone and headphones together in a call. Absolutely atrocious, Windows.

Do you have an obscure sound card or something? With consumer grade hardware I have rarely had issues with compatibility. Well yes recently with wifi USB adaptors.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by brigandish »

knolan wrote: post #160
brigandish wrote: post #136

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Surely it's faster?

It requires finding a (USB 2.0) cable, connecting both devices, approving trust, and then opening an App and selecting and waiting. AirDrop requires touch based selection and sharing on the iOS device and the transfer is very quick and if it’s your Mac the files go straight to your downloads folder. So it’s more streamlined overall with AirDrop. I had a colleague who used to do a similar dance with Image Capture. He…

The trust approval either never happens or it happened once and I don't remember. I also find it's a quicker interface than Airdrop, which is slow and also lengthened by my having to turn on bluetooth and then turn it off in the settings at the end. File transfer is much quicker.

Finding a USB cable though, sometimes that does take a search and a wee bit of cursing!

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by jatone »

ancarda wrote: post #103
MintelIE wrote: post #62

Why don't companies come out and tell people what they're doing these days? Telemetry is getting to the point where people such as doctors and lawyers might be violating the law by using a modern computer. And people in the defense industry? Doesn't Apple employ thousands of forns? Who's audited their datasystems and ensured that this stuff stays private? Much easier and better to just stop using it all and move to a…

If only moving to Linux were an option for everyone. The other day I tried for the 100th time to move to Linux. I installed a recent build of a maintained, popular distribution (no it doesn't matter which one - I have tried them all), on hardware that is famous for it's Linux support. Everything worked for a day and a half, then the sound just fucking died. No input or output. I get millions of people use Linux daily…

odd personally i havent had those issue in about a decade for my custom desktop builds.

but in general if you want things to to just work (tm) use system76 or some other linux native vendor.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by knolan »

brigandish wrote: post #175
knolan wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It requires finding a (USB 2.0) cable, connecting both devices, approving trust, and then opening an App and selecting and waiting. AirDrop requires touch based selection and sharing on the iOS device and the transfer is very quick and if it’s your Mac the files go straight to your downloads folder. So it’s more streamlined overall with AirDrop. I had a colleague who used to do a similar dance with Image Capture. He…

The trust approval either never happens or it happened once and I don't remember. I also find it's a quicker interface than Airdrop, which is slow and also lengthened by my having to turn on bluetooth and then turn it off in the settings at the end. File transfer is much quicker. Finding a USB cable though, sometimes that does take a search and a wee bit of cursing!

It’s always interesting to read about other folks workflows for simple tasks.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by david-cako »

macOS has quite a few built-in antivirus features:

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/app-security-overvi...

IMO, you have to pick a security vendor to trust (only as far as you can throw them). Apple is incentivized to provide better end-user experiences as a matter of having end to end authority for their products. They’ve built a robust (albeit prescriptive) security/sandboxing ecosystem to avoid just pointing at software vendors if a customer is unhappy.

I like these features, but the fact that they’re not always optional is frustrating. Note also that soon macOS will be running on Apple ARM SoCs; similar trade off.

Buy any other computer, and you now have Microsoft or Google, a CPU vendor, a consumer hardware vendor, and possibly also an antivirus company installing background services.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by timw4mail »

vmception wrote: post #58
mokus wrote: post #24

I guess the list of things keeping me off catalina (and, by extension, new Mac hardware) just got one item longer. I recently bought a new System76 laptop as a stopgap, but it might end up becoming permanent. Kind of a sad end for 25+ years of Mac use.

One thing that always turned me off of Windows was that I would be in the control panel or command line within 5 minutes of using any system to fix a preference, and how with OSX it was refreshing not to have to do the equivalent in System Preferences or terminal. This is no longer true. It is a very similar and annoying experience for me. I use OSX, Windows and various versions of Linux. The browser is the real plat…

Hah, I don't remember the last time I set up any OS and didn't have to change settings on first boot.

Maybe OS X 10.4 worked for me out of the box.

The longer you use a computer, the more you expect certain behavior, and the less you get it out of the box.

Re: Catalina is checking notarization of unsigned executables

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Post by 72deluxe »

Marsymars wrote: post #48
72deluxe wrote: post #39

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What does df -h in the terminal say? It'll show the total of each partition (the normal, and the new read-only system partition) on their own line, thereby giving a false total. e.g. 1x 100GB disk, 50GB normal, 50GB system partition will show as capacity 100GB for both partitions which would mean a 200GB disk. Small things like this just make me completely lose faith in Catalina. EDIT: Other "fun" things I noticed wi…

> a. Text search in PDF no longer works Oh is this macOS? I'd just assumed all the PDFs I've tried to search for the past while have been poorly formatted with the text as images, but that makes more sense. > I'll keep it on a SSD for App Store submissions and keep my machine on an older decent version thanks FYI it's pretty easy to integrate binary upload to App Store Connect on the CLI of your CI system.

Thanks, do you have any pointers on binary upload via CLI etc.?
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