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WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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I installed it yesterday and noticed that it doesn't actually index much. It should be, but it's not, the pages aren't added. If they are in the index, it finds them in a search, but very few pages are.

Oli here from Memex. It may be that you have not touched the indexing preferences (which only index pages that are visited for more than 5 seconds) Is that the reason, or does it still not work?

No, I changed everything (set it to 20 seconds), it still doesn't work. I stay on pages (here, for example) for minutes, and they don't get indexed. I have disabled the bar and hotkeys, if it matters.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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My tools of choice for advanced bookmarking and offline read: * org-mode [1]. * org-board [2] for offline archiving. * Org Capture [3] for getting links or text chunks from browser. * git repo for tracking history. With org-mode I can create really complex connections between articles and citations, add tags, have TODO lists and many more. To visualize things and connections, org-mind-map [4] can be useful. Because e…

In the last week I’ve gone from using org-mode grudgingly in conjunction with a wiki, to just org-mode and realizing I’ll never be able to live without it again.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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This is still not as powerful as my one, simple trick to handle all bookmarks, ever: Print to PDF. I've been doing it since last century, and I have 10's of thousands of PDF's of every single web page I've ever found interesting, sitting right there in a directory on my computer. Its indexable, searchable, grok'able, available off-line, allows me to harvest data without fuss, and gives me access to anything I can rem…

Many sites have horribly broken/nonexistent print styling. Any tips on how to get good prints matching what you see in the browser?

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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This is still not as powerful as my one, simple trick to handle all bookmarks, ever: Print to PDF. I've been doing it since last century, and I have 10's of thousands of PDF's of every single web page I've ever found interesting, sitting right there in a directory on my computer. Its indexable, searchable, grok'able, available off-line, allows me to harvest data without fuss, and gives me access to anything I can rem…

I think it all depends on what you are using bookmarks for. I bookmark sites I want to check out again in the near future, but searching in my bookmarks/tagging as memex does has never been an issue for me.

If it is something worth searching its text, then it is something worth saving offline, reading and annotating. I use Polar [1] for most and wallabag [2] for its .epub converting ability - especially if there is mainly text that interests me and a lot of it, so I can read it on my ereader. As soon as Polar manages .epubs I shall import all my .epub articles into it. :)

[1] https://getpolarized.io/ [2] https://wallabag.org/en

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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post #174

This is still not as powerful as my one, simple trick to handle all bookmarks, ever: Print to PDF. I've been doing it since last century, and I have 10's of thousands of PDF's of every single web page I've ever found interesting, sitting right there in a directory on my computer. Its indexable, searchable, grok'able, available off-line, allows me to harvest data without fuss, and gives me access to anything I can rem…

I think it all depends on what you are using bookmarks for. I bookmark sites I want to check out again in the near future, but searching in my bookmarks/tagging as memex does has never been an issue for me. If it is something worth searching its text, then it is something worth saving offline, reading and annotating. I use Polar [1] for most and wallabag [2] for its .epub converting ability - especially if there is m…

Print-to-PDF, put the important sites in a Folder on your Desktop ..

The URL for every single site is in the PDF.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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About a month or so ago I moved to a new Mac. I had the option of porting over all my bookmarks, starting fresh, or sorting them out. I took a lazy Sunday and sorted through ~7000 bookmarks I'd accumulated in the 7 years I had the previous Mac.

About 50% of the sites or pages were now offline. 45% were irrelevant to me, either because I was no longer interested, they'd been superseded by something better, or they were outdated code snippets or examples, etc. 3% I (finally) read or skimmed, none of these changed my life. 2% were useful sites, mostly collections of things (stock imagery, audio samples) I would struggle to find in Google now or I don't manually type in frequently. I added keywords to the titles (you can't tag in Chrome) and sorted them into folders.

I was also a tab monster. I'd have ~150 or open at all times (thanks Great Suspender!) - usually things I wanted to read later or come back to.

I drew a line - tabs get 48 hours and then they're closed. Websites only get bookmarked if they contain something likely to last and I'd struggle to find if I Googled again. Both the tabs and the bookmarks created unnecessary mental load. Every suspended tab and "read me later" bookmark became another weight around my neck that screamed "still haven't got around to me, eh? Fail!" Now I'm working to the "read it asap or act on it asap - or it's not something you _really_ wanted." I guess a kind of Marie Kondo for my head, which is really rather freeing.

Perhaps Memex is a good middle ground. A chance to drag up the past as and when _my life_ is ready for it, without the future affecting the present. I'll give it a go.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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This is still not as powerful as my one, simple trick to handle all bookmarks, ever: Print to PDF. I've been doing it since last century, and I have 10's of thousands of PDF's of every single web page I've ever found interesting, sitting right there in a directory on my computer. Its indexable, searchable, grok'able, available off-line, allows me to harvest data without fuss, and gives me access to anything I can rem…

I am also a big fan of Print to PDF. I've actually built a simple bookmarking service [0] that does just this. EmailThis extracts meaningful content from web pages and sends it to your email inbox. You can also tell it to save a PDF copy of each page, in which case the PDF is sent as an attachment. Print-to-Pdf is done using Headless Chrome (so it works exactly like doing a Ctrl-P). I find that the Print to PDF works…

Nice way to find out what everyone is reading while gathering addresses of smart people. ;)

> Sometimes, they might incorrectly remove images and other meaningful content. So in such cases, having a full PDF snapshot is quite handy.

Also interesting is that the context is preserved locally across visits to the site - over 10 years, I have gathered a pretty interesting view of some of the various A/B changes that have gone on, on my favourite 'daily visit' sites ..

And, it is often very revealing of my own habits. This highlights the privacy-factor of having a local-file based bookmark/ontology system a little more in my favour.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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I don't understand your point at all. In what way is a browser going to give me information that is not available to me unless I'm online? PDF's of sites I've visited have all the data I need - the stuff I read that then prompted me to print to PDF. I've searched and I'm yet to find a single PDF in my collection that doesn't have the info that prompted me to save it in the first place. I understand you believe your p…

PDF conversion throws away almost all of the structure contained in HTML. Tools like pdf2text then try to reconstruct some of that structure (such as the correct sequence of letters and words) using complex heuristics that don't always work. They often do that successfully enough, especially if all you want is to grep for words. pdf2text also has a table mode that attempts to reconstruct table structured content. Thi…

>structure contained in HTML.

As long as I can read the site, I have what I need. Why do I need to read the HTML?

>So depending on how you want to process your stored data, saving as PDF may or may not preserve sufficient information.

As long as I can read it, the PDF is sufficient for my needs.

For everything else, there's wget.

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

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$ pdftotext | grep sometext ^^ first advantage Also: a) Formatting is not lost, it just changes to fit the default paper size I've got selected (A4) but doesn't really make much difference, since its a snapshot, and b) URL is right there in the Header of the PDF, and is clickable, so no - not really an issue. This archive also functions as a bookmark collection as well as an offline copy for future reference .. (Disc…

Grep is not much of an advantage when Mac, Windows and Linux all have as-you-type full-text search of common formats like HTML and PDF.

Pro's for grep/silversearcher/etc.: quite fast, quite efficient, redirect-able to other tools, maybe a little sqlite here, maybe a bit of xml/svg there and most important of all: private, under my control...

mdimporter: yeah, sure, just no .. mmkay?

Re: WorldBrain's Memex: Bookmarking for the power users of the web

#180

This is still not as powerful as my one, simple trick to handle all bookmarks, ever: Print to PDF. I've been doing it since last century, and I have 10's of thousands of PDF's of every single web page I've ever found interesting, sitting right there in a directory on my computer. Its indexable, searchable, grok'able, available off-line, allows me to harvest data without fuss, and gives me access to anything I can rem…

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