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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

I would agree with you here. I don't understand why tabs, bookmarks, and history aren't just merged into one feature. History needs to be less ephemeral, but more easily editable. Then you could add some sort of ctrl-p style fuzzy search that includes both url and content, as well as a knob that dials up or down the number of visible tabs/history items, and they'd fall off with disuse. You could pin some to the top o…

THIS!

I just wanted to post the same thought- I want tabs, bookmarks and history to be connected to the context of the tasks I am doing- sometimes I am investigating a problem and open 20 tabs and I want my browser to record this (perhaps how long I stayed on the site) and present this info to me in an intelligent way.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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This seems to be a mixture of the "collections" feature from Firefox Mobile (Beta/Preview) and Firefox's container tabs, but without the security / isolation benefits. From what I can tell, the main benefit seems to be in relation to identifying similar-looking tabs. It's unfortunate that they didn't bake in the same security and isolation benefits of Firefox's container tabs, or the "put aside and come back to it la…

A bit tinfoil hat, but could it be an attempt to head off Firefox Containers which would be a threat to Google Cookie collection? That's certainly my main use case for containers, using Google Music without telling the rest of the web about my Google account.

There is also browser fingerprinting, so they may still know it's you even if you are in a private tab.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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A great next iteration would be to let users fold/unfold those groups, so that you only have one visible "tab" per group in the top bar. This would really help the "tab collecters" (like me, who had to close 78 tabs some weeks ago).

I can't see any benefit really to this new feature they announced without what you're suggesting. If they add the ability to collapse groups, then I would probably use it, otherwise I can keep my tabs just as organised without a need for some colour hints.

Same. I was really excited first when I saw this feature. After installing it, I barely use it now. It helps a bit for a first overview, but my tab bar is still super full.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any other restriction/benefit in containers? I use the 'first party isolate' config option, and never really need e.g. different accounts logged in to same site, so as far as I'm aware there's no point? I recently switched from an unmaintained tabs sidebar to 'Sidebery' which is quite nice in an 'overriding UI like it's made by Adobe' sort of way, which has got me using trees, and even tried containers (sinc…

With the first party isolate, mechanisms such as oAuth would not work. So the containers are less restrictive, but still allow you to have two sites with the same cookie context.

I've been using first party isolation for quite a while on desktop and Android and the only websites I experienced issues with are the Atlassian login and the Trello GitHub powerup.

Everything else, including tons of single sign in/OAuth websites, work without any issue.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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It seems to me I’m in the minority by being a minimalist here? I have at most 10 tabs open. Same for Sublime Text open files. I regularly close all but one tab/file just to reset my cognitive load. This does force me to rely on the history from time to time, which I must say is a true pain in Chrome. You can’t even search or filter by date. Also, revisiting a page will move it up the top of the list, which is annoyin…

> I wish there was a feature to drag+select a group of tabs and send them to a new window

There is! Press CTRL while clicking individual tabs OR press SHIFT while clicking the first and last tab you want to move to a new window. Selected tabs appear slightly brighter. Then, just drag. This works in Chrome and Firefox.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

For TST in Chrome I've been very happy with Tabs Outliner (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...). As well as a great tree, you can mix live tabs/windows with frozen ones that don't consume RAM, and this is all reliably persisted across restarts.

Tabs Outliner is a separate window, since Chrome extensions can't add sidebars, so rather than using it as a tabbar replacement I tend to have multiple windows with less than 10 tabs, and open Tabs Outliner when I want a coherent overview (e.g. to quickly skim through my tab titles before closing them in bulk).

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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post #160

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

In my case, I found that the whole concept of managing tabs just becomes moot at some point. The only extension I use to deal with the load of tabs I have open is funnily enough vimium. When you press the omnibar opens and you can search your open tabs and immediately jump to them, all without leaving your keyboard. This is way quicker than manually going through your tab list and searching for the right one.

My way of dealing with it is closing the browser and reopening it. It feels like taking a deep breath and starting over, stockpiling useless things...

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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post #129

It seems to me I’m in the minority by being a minimalist here? I have at most 10 tabs open. Same for Sublime Text open files. I regularly close all but one tab/file just to reset my cognitive load. This does force me to rely on the history from time to time, which I must say is a true pain in Chrome. You can’t even search or filter by date. Also, revisiting a page will move it up the top of the list, which is annoyin…

> I wish there was a feature to drag+select a group of tabs and send them to a new window There is! Press CTRL while clicking individual tabs OR press SHIFT while clicking the first and last tab you want to move to a new window. Selected tabs appear slightly brighter. Then, just drag. This works in Chrome and Firefox.

Oh my… You just changed my life. Thanks so much for this. (I really should have RTFM).

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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I have a dream. What I really want was likely not possible when tabs were invented, but should be now.

I want least recently used tabs to automatically fade away, but still be fully known and searchable the way that 'search my computer' or 'google search' works. With search filters like last hour/day/week/month. And it seems like history should be kept per tab, not altogether.

This way I keep a minimal-to-medium number of active tabs, but have all those magical things-to-do, pseudo-bookmarks, or other things that cause open tabs to grow and grow available via a quick search interface, auto-magically.

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