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Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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And VR headsets, which have been sold out for a while (especially Oculus Rift S and Quest) and every time they're brought back in stock, they sell out within minutes or seconds. I managed to grab a Quest... with delivery date like May 1st or something.

(Granted, there were some 'rona-caused supply chain problems with the headsets and also Half Life: Alyx just was released, but still.)

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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I’ve been using CamTwist ( http://camtwiststudio.com/ ) for it after checking the alternatives. Even if old-looking it works well (in Catalina and Mojave) and has converted my old iPhone into a good-quality webcam. OBS studio is getting virtual webcam support soon (see a recent post about OBS studio) and will allow for that as well (I have tried the proof of concept implementation)

John Boiles has a proof of concept of the OBS virtual cam. I tried it out and it worked for me, although I had to build it and OBS from source. He has good instructions. https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam

Yes, that's the proof of concept I have tried. It builds from source relatively straightforwardly (takes a short while), and indeed the instructions are very good.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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I’ve been using CamTwist ( http://camtwiststudio.com/ ) for it after checking the alternatives. Even if old-looking it works well (in Catalina and Mojave) and has converted my old iPhone into a good-quality webcam. OBS studio is getting virtual webcam support soon (see a recent post about OBS studio) and will allow for that as well (I have tried the proof of concept implementation)

Ah I didn’t know camtwist can use your iPhone as a cam. Unfortunately it isn’t working anymore on one of my Catalina installs. Which is my primary daily driver. Luckily works on secondary older Mac that I use for Zoom frequently. Will try it out, thanks!

Oh, interesting, it works for me on Catalina. For some unknown reason I had to restart to make it work, _and_ only works on Chrome (for Meet) and some other selected programs. I guess it shows its age, I may have been lucky it works for me.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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It's incredibly annoying that you can't use your APPLE iPhone camera as a webcam for your APPLE Macbook, but instead are forced to use the atrociously terrible cam that comes with the Macbook. I've tried workarounds using the excellent OSB, but there's currently no software that let's you reroute video on a Mac (like Loopback does for audio) EDIT: I stand corrected, as user wolfhumble points out below, EpocCam seems…

There is this, but I haven't tried it: https://apps.apple.com/app/epoccam-webcam-for-mac-pc/id44913...

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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This doesn't appear to be accurate. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... Anecdotally, my local ISP has gone from everyone getting 10/1 to 100/5 in the base package in the last few years.

Upload bandwidth for 95% of homes in the US is the same as it was almost 20 years ago. It’s so bad it’s not even advertised. If you have access to fiber, then you’re very lucky in the US. I would also say 5mbps upload is hardly an upgrade. A single FaceTime call uses a couple mbps, so it’s probably just enough for that, assuming everyone in the neighborhood isn’t uploading too, which they are nowadays.

There's another bandwidth limitation at play - public wi-fi in airports, hotels, and even conference centers is atrocious by default. The best bet for improving video calling resolution in the US appears to be hardware h.265 encoders because we're making such slow progress aggregately in Internet upload bandwidth.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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The webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely un…

> Don't get me started about free videoconference software and open, end-to-end encrypted systems. Am I missing something? Is this really that hard?

I feel your pain :( couple days ago someone posted this: https://jami.net

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22755596

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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in germany, getting kilo-packs of flour is hard. I have access to metro, which is a supermarket/distributor for businesses and they had tons of flour, but only 25kg packs for commercial buyers. It's even marked on the package "Nur zum gewerblichen Gebrauch". So there's flour - it's just not in your distribution chain.

There's been an article floating around that posits that the same thing is happening with toilet paper: plenty of "institutional" product is available (since many businesses are closed), but not "home" product (since people are not only hoarding but also using the restroom at home more).

yes, you can see that in quite a few categories of products:

Canned Tomatoes, 2.5 kg cans available. 500g cans: out.

Pasta, 500g Spaghetti? Forget it. 5kg bulk: Available.

Yeast, regular cubes: no way. Ordering half a kilo of dry yeast: no problem.

It's just that as a regular normal family, 500g of yeast will get you through a year or two, depending on how much you bake (that's about the equivalent of 75 packets of dry yeast) But that stuff is also impossible to repackage into smaller quantities without exposing it to spoilage. There's a few supermarkets in Berlin that sell unpackaged stuff (basically you bring your own reusable container and they fill it for you) and they're well stocked in flour, pasta and stuff since they solve the repackaging issue at the point of sale.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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I don't see any evidence webcams are worse than other stuff though. Amazon's been sold out of current-gen iPad Mini's for a while too. (Though regular iPads are there.) Global supply chains are disrupted, so all sorts of random individual products are either jumping in price or sold out, while plenty of other ones are perfectly fine. But aside from masks/TP/sanitizer/rice and similar, I'm not seeing a lot of whole pr…

iPads are really nice for video calling. My in-laws recently (within last 2 months) got one almost entirely for FaceTime with family (they had Skype on laptop but was always a hassle for them). So this is the same kind of thing as a webcam.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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Home broadband has not improved much in the past 10 years. Home users simply couldn't stream a 720p video back then and most still can't as of today. So there is no point in making higher resolution cameras, that won't run 5 frames per second. Besides, high-end phones have very good cameras nowadays but they sell for a $1000 and upward. The typical webcam budget is rather in the $20-30 range. If you're willing to put…

This doesn't appear to be accurate. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... Anecdotally, my local ISP has gone from everyone getting 10/1 to 100/5 in the base package in the last few years.

Also anecdotal, but I had less than 3 up and down about 11 years ago. 10 years ago it was 3 symmetric. Now its 100 symmetric, and was (briefly) 1gb symmetric with another provider last year.

Its definitely improving on average.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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Also bidets, nintendo switches, instant yeast, powdered milk, etc. I actually snagged some wine yeast on amazon and I'm on my third loaf of bread. Bidet was the best "waste of money" I have spent in a long time. My TP usage has been slashed.

A few friends switch to bidets a while ago and wont look back. Personally I just jump in the shower if it's that bad.

I find bidets as or more useful if it's not that bad. You're often talking about just one or two square of toilet paper (literally, not figuratively).

Try cleaning your hands with paper instead of water some day, and see how that works out for you. It's the same thing.

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