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Value to whom? Reddit has decided that they do not value the users being deplatfomed. Any value you receive from the platform as a user is a byproduct. Pool funds for VMs and fire up phpBB or IRC if unhappy with the platforms available.
Gab did that and was summarily attacked by silicon Valley et al., so I guess you would have to build an entirely separate internet infrastructure instead of just opening up shop with phpBB.
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Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#172What is really happening is reddit is just taking over all the most popular subreddits. They want to control the main vibe of the site. Understandable for a corporation but not in line with the original idea of the founders.
Best action is to bring this to light. Make everyone aware that Reddit is not a free speech zone--its a closely monitored and profit-driven business.
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I don't have links at the ready, but I have seen multiple instances of TD brigading with pinned topics. I am not saying I know for a fact it has happened recently, but it has happened. I don't blame you for wanting evidence, but their track record doesn't give them the benefit of the doubt.
The nerve you have to accuse, then say you don't have links of proof, then demand links of proof from me when I say I've seen brigading. They are both anecdotal and yet you feel like yours is right and mine is laughable. Neither side can say who is brigading for sure but only one side is getting banned. The sanders subreddits and /r/politics brigading is prevalent from what I've seen. Hell, it was an issue on one of…
EDIT: OP edited their comment, I will leave mine as-is.
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That's not true. It's plastered all over not to brigade. NP links are required to prevent it. Ironically T_D deals with brigading from other subs all the time. The mods at T_D have followed every rule to the tee. Other subs are not expected to control all of their users, but at least to enforce the site rules, T_D mods have done this. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent if we want to u…
NP links aren't 100% effective in stopping brigading. You can simply remove the "np." from the URL.
Of course you can change the link, any user in any sub can change a link and brigade, at that point the blame is on the individual, not the group.
I could show you many examples of rule breaking all over Reddit, that doesn't mean you quarantine the entire sub, there would be nothing left.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
The nerve you have to accuse, then say you don't have links of proof, then demand links of proof from me when I say I've seen brigading. They are both anecdotal and yet you feel like yours is right and mine is laughable. Neither side can say who is brigading for sure but only one side is getting banned. The sanders subreddits and /r/politics brigading is prevalent from what I've seen. Hell, it was an issue on one of…
Do you have any examples of brigading from the subreddits you mention? I haven't seen any, and would like to be more informed. EDIT: OP edited their comment, I will leave mine as-is.
No you already said you didn't.
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#176Re: Reddit purges 1/2 of The Donald’s moderators – replaces them with approved mods
#177The result is a cocktail of factors ripe for exploitation:
1. Some political subreddits have hundreds of thousands of users and are highly influential.
2. Mods have unrestricted power and virtually no accountability. Users have no way to check that moderation is fair and unbiased.
3. Mods are unpaid and anonymous.
If Russia or China specifically set out to design a way to influence foreign politics, Reddit would be a fantastic platform to do just that. If you can get mods in your pocket you can promote or suppress issues to suit whatever agenda you desire.
If Reddit were going to try to reign in the very worst of its mods, /r/The_Donald would probably be a good place to start. Most reddit users view that forum as a cesspool that was quarantined for good reason. However, the methods Reddit is using here are as opaque as that of the moderators themselves. There has been no direct communication to users. All the reporting on this "purge" is sourced from the purged moderators themselves. While I have no sympathy for the mods of /r/The_Donald whatsoever, the way Reddit is operating here is indeed reminiscent of a totalitarian state's propaganda ministry. They permit much, but certain things bring the fist down hard, and it's done in a way that most people are not meant to see.
If you rely on Reddit for political information then you are making yourself vulnerable to unknown influences. While reddit is a fantastic resource in many ways, it's simply not safe to rely upon for certain things.
With most traditional news sources now being owned by a small number of international conglomerates, there is a real need for alternative forums of political discussion. Reddit, as it currently exists, should not be that forum. However, with changes something like Reddit could be made to work. Such a forum would need to make moderation much more transparent. You can't give mods the power to simply disappear that which they don't like. Users need to be able to examine the actions of moderators and question them. Taking away the toy of unchecked, anonymous power would naturally make it harder to find mods, so they might actually have to be paid. How you make money like Reddit does without volunteer moderators is a problem worth solving, as is finding a way to select moderators that can be trusted by the community they serve and not necessarily the company paying them.
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> Sign in required >This page may contain erotic or adult imagery. You'll need to sign in if you still want to view it. Fuck that.
That’s usually due to supporters of the forum in question flagging it to prevent others from viewing it easily. If you have the mobile Imgur app it can view the link without being signed in.
They could easily have a button to bypass, but require signin. Same with YouTube and others following this asshole design pattern.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not true. It's plastered all over not to brigade. NP links are required to prevent it. Ironically T_D deals with brigading from other subs all the time. The mods at T_D have followed every rule to the tee. Other subs are not expected to control all of their users, but at least to enforce the site rules, T_D mods have done this. I haven't seen any evidence otherwise. Guilty until proven innocent if we want to u…
I suspect this is a case of an isolated demand for rigor. It’s quite difficult to have a political reddit with 700,000 subscribers and not have comments or post being made that break the rules. Especially when there are strong incentives for people to use alts to make false flag posts. I strongly doubt r/the_donald is being fairly treated by reddit when most of the admin team has a fundamental objection to the sub’s…
Do you really feel that's a fair summary of what happened, in spite of the discussion of that incident elsewhere in this thread?
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#180This is incredibly disturbing, in light of the fact Reddit's CEO was once caught secretly editing[1] the comments of The Donald's users. Can't assume this is being done in good faith as the comments leading The Donald to be quarantined could be edits, or shill accounts. I'm sure someone will say "their website, their rules" but in that case it's better to just ban it entirely instead of engaging in subversive practic…
>This is incredibly disturbing Meh. You're blowing this out of proportion. >in light of the fact Reddit's CEO was once caught secretly editing Again, you're making this seem more nefarious than it actually was. He did it because he thought it would be appreciated (obviously he was wrong). In the end, it was a dumb and immature move from a young, rookie CEO ... on a social network site (i.e. not that big of a deal in…