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Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

#171

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So only 1 or two people I know will die of it? How is that 'mild' exactly? Relative to what? The plague?

0.8% of the people you know die every year anyway. If all of the people you know get infected it might bump it to 3%. Not that radical in my opinion.

That 0.8% includes 'old age'. In fact, its mostly old age.

The corona virus increases the death rate from influenza 10,000X. By communicable disease, 100X?

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post #95

I will probably be downvoted for saying this, but... The seasonal flu alone kills half a million people every year. So any mild disease that is as contagious and barely twice as fatal will kill 1 million. And that's what's going to happen with COVID19. It is far more severe than the flu. We know COVID19 is as contagious, given how fast it's spreading and how unstoppable it is (R0>2, asymptomatic transmission, airborn…

Let’s say 40% of the people in the world get it and a 1% fatality rate: That 30 million dead, and probably another 300 million hospitalized and maybe 50 million that need icu care. Should probably go without saying that we don’t have the ICU beds to handle that in the western world, let alone in developing countries. We also haven’t had anything like the Spanish flu in the US since we’ve had the modern health insuran…

Building on this, what happens if grocery stores shut down as the Just in Time stocking infrastructure breaks down as truckers / workers stop going to work?

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They won't once the quarantine is in effect

A quarantine that tries to prevent people getting food is a quick way to get riots. No government would be stupid like that.

Show me a person who values their minimum wage so much that they will risk making pizza deliveries (or even bake the pizza) in a quarantined city, please. Typically, the government does it in these cases, and often it's not enough or not what you need or prefer, so it's advisable to prepare.

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Why is hacker news censoring covid-19 articles? This article just disappeared from the front page despite having more upvotes than most articles on the first page after being submitted an hour ago. Another covid-19 article over the weekend disappeared from the front page also.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

#175

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smoking is not contagious, a smoker can't infect or kill you directly with cigarettes

Except that according to the CDC, second hand smoke causes 41,000 deaths per year in the US: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/heal...

you need to be exposed to second hand smoke for long periods of time before it can kill you, the covid-19 exposure take considerably less time in comparison, then again are they really comparable at this point?

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

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post #145
post #95

I will probably be downvoted for saying this, but... The seasonal flu alone kills half a million people every year. So any mild disease that is as contagious and barely twice as fatal will kill 1 million. And that's what's going to happen with COVID19. It is far more severe than the flu. We know COVID19 is as contagious, given how fast it's spreading and how unstoppable it is (R0>2, asymptomatic transmission, airborn…

> The seasonal flu alone kills half a million people every year. So any mild disease that is as contagious and barely twice as fatal will kill 1 million That’s assuming no containment effort, like with seasonal flu. Of course, it’s gonna happen if health authorities take the same defeatist attitude as you and do nothing.

> Of course, it’s gonna happen if health authorities take the same defeatist attitude as you and do nothing.

how long can they get away with locking people up in their homes? There will be tipping point when those who are supposed to deliver the first-response and do the policing will also become a vector for spreading the disease. Things will escalate quickly no matter if the attitude is "defeatist" or optimistic.

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#177

Can someone explain to me why coronavirus is getting so much coverage? According to Wikipedia, Coronavirus has killed about 2000 people. Each year smoking kills 480,000 people in the US. In two days smoking will have killed more people in the US than coronavirus has worldwide. Shouldn't we have headlines about this every day? Or any of the other far more deadly things (traffic accidents, heart disease, suicide, etc.)…

> According to Wikipedia, Coronavirus has killed about 2000 people.

It's mostly isolated to 1 province in China. If you extrapolate those deaths world wide, you're talking 10s of millions of people dead if it goes pandemic.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

#178
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We were looking into Covid-19 at the office and after digging through the scariness we realized mortality rate for healthy 30-somethings is around 0.1%. Then we said screw it and stopped worrying. We’re most likely gonna be fine. Even if it becomes widespread the odds are ever in our favor. Plus there’s already a few confirmed cases in SFBA so ... Edit: for the downvoters, I’m not say spread disease with wonton aband…

What about the 15% or so requiring intensive care units? If not contained this has the potential of creating a massive denial of service attack on the entire health care system.

Re: Is It a Pandemic Yet?

#179
post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The seasonal flu alone kills half a million people every year. So any mild disease that is as contagious and barely twice as fatal will kill 1 million That’s assuming no containment effort, like with seasonal flu. Of course, it’s gonna happen if health authorities take the same defeatist attitude as you and do nothing.

> Of course, it’s gonna happen if health authorities take the same defeatist attitude as you and do nothing. how long can they get away with locking people up in their homes? There will be tipping point when those who are supposed to deliver the first-response and do the policing will also become a vector for spreading the disease. Things will escalate quickly no matter if the attitude is "defeatist" or optimistic.

Long enough for the virus to die out? Let’s just check back in July.
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