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Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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read. more. tech. history. You have no idea how furious your comment made me.

What would you recommend to read?

If you prefer video, watch the 1998 PBS piece Nerds 2.0.1: A Brief History of the Internet. I won't link to it because I'm not sure if the site is legit, but I just re-watched a few minutes of it and it's funny to look back at the hype in that era.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Well clearly they built it so they own it. So if you don’t like it, it’s their way or the highway!

> they built it What exactly did they built? AFAIK, even search engines already existed when they entered the game(they just did it better). The fundamental protocols that makes the web work weren't invented by them. What made you think "they built the web"?

I mean thats not entirely true. They build and maintain HTTP3 and Chrome (oversimplification, I know)

They do somewhat control the fundamental elements that make the web work. Blink/V8 is obviously more powerful than Webkit, Gecko, as far as the market is concerned.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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> The web is a thousand times better now than it was ten years ago. I disagree wholeheartedly. I think the web is much worse than it was ten years ago, and the trendline indicates that it will continue on that trajectory.

I find it significantly better as both a user and developer, but of course it is a subjective thing.

I think it's much worse as a user (ads everywhere disguised as informative articles, bloated websites, constant tracking, consolidation of websites into a few corporate silos)

and also much worse as a developer (wow wtf javascript frameworks)

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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I'm confused. I noticed this aesthetic change a couple of weeks ago and I wondered what was causing it. So now when I saw this post, I turned off adblock on the search results page to see where the ads are, and I still can't seem to see any ads.

The sidebar is blank. The main page has results from "Places", "People also ask" and "images", interspersed with the normal results (which now look more like the old ads), but I don't see any actual ads, even with adblock off. For those of you that have the new look and see ads, where are they?

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Unironically switch to Bing

I hear Duck Duck Go is pretty good these days. I tried their image search after Google removed a feature I liked and it had a feature I didn't even realize I wanted.

I switched to DDG from Google because of AMP. Now I use DDG because the results seem often more relevant.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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> clicks on search results, plus backs and dwell times, are vital training data Interesting. Can you explain more on what is tracked after a user clicks a result and how this data is used?

(Disclaimer: as I said, I don't work at Bing anymore. Things may have changed in the intervening period and I could be mistaken or plain wrong about things) Obviously ranking search results is immensely complicated with lots of accumulated insider wisdom, but the short answer is that "static" page features (PageRank, how well the query matches text on the page, etc.) are good for pruning down zillions of pages to gen…

> For generating the final top-10 ordering, "dynamic" features like how many people clicked that link, how long did they spend on the page, etc. are the most useful.

Do Google do this as well?

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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I hear Duck Duck Go is pretty good these days. I tried their image search after Google removed a feature I liked and it had a feature I didn't even realize I wanted.

DuckDuckGo is mostly Bing.

They have a bunch of own infrastructure and data these days (I have read they don't use Bing at all now).

Besides: It's cleaner, faster, has often useful instant answers (random, 10011001 in hex, 1 btc in xmr, 40 stones in kg), bangs (!g for Google, !gh for GitHub, !yt for YouTube, !w for Wikipedia) and actually respects your privacy.

I think this feature could be much improved an expanded, but the location context switch is a really cool thing as well.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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Unironically switch to Bing

Funny, that google UI change finally pushed me to set DuckDuckGo to default search provider in my work computer. Few times I have been little bit dissapointed with search results and did another search in google, but mostly ddg is pretty smooth experience. So, thanks google for that UI change.

Re: Every Google result now looks like an ad

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It's pretty simple to just use UBlock Origin. Firstly, I don't usually see any of the doubleclick ad results, because they get filtered out, and secondly, if I do click on them, it redirects you to a warning page first. Friends don't let friends use the internet without an adblocker.

Adblockers are mostly useless, companies pay them to whitelist and the browsers manufacturers (other than the little guys) seem more inclined to make it less functional. I try at home to use a hosts file (ie a manual pihole) but it breaks so many websites I can't find some combo that blocks ads but doesn't break functionality (I still can't comment on reddit any more). With Google putting ads inline coming from them…

> Adblockers are mostly useless, companies pay them to whitelist

uBlock Origin is open source and doesn't accept donations or payments to whitelist ad networks:

- Github: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/

- Manifesto: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/blob/master/MANIFESTO.md

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