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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by pritambaral » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:24 AM UTC

sir_brickalot wrote: post #161

philshem wrote: post #38

For those new and old to Firefox, check out the new-ish privacy feature “multi-account containers” https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Unfortunately NoScript is not able to allow/deny selectively for containers. I block all Facebook domains with NoScript so I cant really use facebook in a container.

You might be interested in Facebook Container by Mozilla[1] then, as an alternative to your NoScript rules.

1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by onion2k » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:25 AM UTC

SquareWheel wrote: post #102

onion2k wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has the resources and brains available to solve world hunger, so they probably could do that. Unfortunately all those people who work there would rather spend their time and effort thinking of new ways to get people to see ads. I don't see that as very positive for Google.

Google has hundreds of product teams. Very few work on ads. Your comment is not accurate at all.

Practically everything Google does is to drive sales for the ad business. Those teams might not work on ads, but they exist to make ads more money by either working on things that display ads or things that gather data to make ads more attractive to ad buyers.

That is the reason why Google exists. If it wasn't for selling ads then none of those other teams would exist.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by franga2000 » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:34 AM UTC

hydgv wrote: post #159

cerberusss wrote: post #153

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Are you saying that nothing could ever excuse that fact? Cliqz is building a European, independent privacy-oriented search engine. This seems a worthy reason to me, especially with the complete and total transparency here. And in any case, the experiment has ended. I still maintain your comments are misleading, by leaving out the context.

Setting aside whether Cliqz could be trusted or not, just think of it: this is a decision that went through lots of managers in the Mozilla Corporation, and nobody ever stopped to think for a moment "sending the entire URL history of our users to a third party? well this is wrong". This is the kind of decision that should've led to lots of resignations inside the company, but nothing happened. To me this means there'…

"nobody ever stopped to think" is used constantly, yet is almost never the truth. What is infinitely more likely is that many people raised eyebrows and were assured by someone way above their pay grade that "everything is fine". Calling Mozilla "deeply rotten" is an extreme leap that (imo) is not justified.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by unnouinceput » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 AM UTC

Switched to Firefox a ~year ago from Chrome. uBlock Origins + Privacy Badger + NoScript does wonders. And on Firefox I love private containers, such a joy to be able to do multiple logins for same service.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by thibran » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:53 AM UTC

Firefox is nice. But over time there are more and more things I need to configure to get a "good" browser experience.

Things I do:

- about:preferences#general > Startup > restore previous session

- about:preferences#general > Tabs > uncheck Ctrl+Tab cycle ...

- about:preferences#general > Downloads > always ask where to save

- about:preferences#home > Firefox Home Content > disable all except Top Sites

- about:preferences#privacy > Permission > Notification Settings > Block new requests

- about:preferences#privacy > Firefox Data Collection and Use > disable

- Set in about:config extensions.pocket.enabled to false

- Install the addons: uBlock Origin, Gesturefy, Firefox Multi-Account Containers

- I remove the home button

- I remove the sidebar button

- I reject every Firefox pop-up that wants me to enable Sync or whatever

The result is a decent browser, which doesn't get in my way. But I can understand that those steps are too many for casual users and can understand why a lot of people don't like the Internet. I wouldn't like it too, if I had to use default browser settings without an ad-blocker.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by HunOL » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 11:56 AM UTC

jamesog wrote: post #166

philshem wrote: post #38

For those new and old to Firefox, check out the new-ish privacy feature “multi-account containers” https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

I like the idea of multi-account containers, but I'm very used to Chrome's way of having separate profiles. With MAC you get tabs for different containers mixed up in the same window and the URL history is shared. I prefer the profiles approach where everything - extensions, history, etc. - is all nicely segregated. Firefox does have profiles, but there's still no good UI for managing them.

I am using Firefox with profiles for years (maybe even decade). Run Firefox from command line with -P flag to start profile manager or -p to run particular profile. Rest is matter of shortcut/custom icons to launch.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by sir_brickalot » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:02 PM UTC

pritambaral wrote: post #171

sir_brickalot wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately NoScript is not able to allow/deny selectively for containers. I block all Facebook domains with NoScript so I cant really use facebook in a container.

You might be interested in Facebook Container by Mozilla[1] then, as an alternative to your NoScript rules. 1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...

Thanks already using it, but this doesn't give me confindence, that all Facebook traffic on all other sites is blocked.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by philshem » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:04 PM UTC

austhrow743 wrote: post #155

philshem wrote: post #38

For those new and old to Firefox, check out the new-ish privacy feature “multi-account containers” https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...

Is it possible to have a different vpn for each container?

aren't VPNs across the entire network connection? (so not specific to the browser)

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by sir_brickalot » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:05 PM UTC

philshem wrote: post #165

sir_brickalot wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately NoScript is not able to allow/deny selectively for containers. I block all Facebook domains with NoScript so I cant really use facebook in a container.

I guess in this case the easiest would be a separate browser for Facebook.

That is what I was doing for that past few years: Opera for Facebook... but Opera is a no go these days because of ownership changes and it would be great to not keep multiple browsers open for simple tasks.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by kevinkeller » Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:06 PM UTC

kiwijamo wrote: post #90

tenant wrote: post #76

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I'm back using firefox full time since about 3 months and don't notice that at all. In fact I now struggle to remember why I ever moved to chrome in the first place, I know there were reasons but I can't remember what they were. Moving back was surprisingly painless. If I could find a similarly easy and good path out of gmail I'd be gone tomorrow.

I recommend FastMail if you're willing to pay for your email services. They have an excellent import tool to help with migrating your email from Gmail.

There was some talk of privacy concerns with FastMail, due to Australian laws: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19242698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18654434

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_Australia...