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Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by xemoka »

jermaustin1 wrote: post #145
voxic11 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already were keeping up with hosting costs at least with the old Reddit gold donations. Also profits pay for non of the things you listed, profits pay for investors.

Profits pay for owners (not just investors). If my company made $0 profit I’d be better off working at McDonald’s.

Sure, if your only goal is dollars and cents. People should have more, and better, goals than /just/ money. This obsession with only turning a buck is why we can’t have nice things that last.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by thomascgalvin »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #117
paganel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the way things are going I can see them getting rid of old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com, at which point I think I'll also stop visiting the website (the mobile website is atrocious and I'm not going to install a dedicated app in order to read a forum).

Heh, like I stopped visiting Slashdot after the new website was implemented. And it wasn't even like I was especially annoyed at the new interface, I just gradually used it less and less until completely stopping...

Reddit has completely replaced Slashdot for me. I wonder what's going to replace Reddit...

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by ronsor »

dmix wrote: post #154
eric_cc wrote: post #147

Are there any good alternatives to the reddit platform? I've been a user since 2006. When reddit blew up in popularity, many subs massively declined in quality as is to be expected. Niche subs, however, remained pretty great. But reddit as an organization is beyond repair at this point. Changes like this are now par for the course. Worse even, reddit is now engaged in censoring subs. The most obvious and possibly mos…

No there's not, I was recently a member of a harmless subreddit that got banned from someone abusing DMCA who had some vendetta against the subreddit over some nonsense. He sent hundreds of fake copyright claims to posts which he had no ownership but Reddit admins didn't give a shit when we complained. He got our next two subreddits banned even faster since they had little content but plenty of DMCA requests. We trie…

I spent approximately two weeks working on a reddit like site[1]

[1]: https://yaddu.pw/c/general

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by dgudkov »

harimau777 wrote: post #31

It feels to me like social media has been imploding recently. It seems like I am seeing more and more efforts to overtly force people use an app, associate browsing with an account, and link their account with a real world identity (e.g. via phone number). This in turn makes the platforms less useful and more hostile to users and presumably at some point that will cause users to leave the system. It also feels like s…

>It also feels like social media platforms are starting to die faster than they can be replaced.

Very well can be. Social media in their current form belong to corporations rather than users. Therefore sooner or later they start making decisions that are hostile to users. To make an analogy, these online societies are not stable because they resemble a monarchy, where a corporation (the monarch) must use its own judgement on how to govern its online society. Which proven to be a rather unsustainable governance model.

Until online societies switch to self-government similar to modern democracies (elected government, elected judges, payment collection, public expense reporting, etc.) they will likely continue to be unsustainable and rather short-term.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by vb6sp6 »

criddell wrote: post #165
harimau777 wrote: post #31

It feels to me like social media has been imploding recently. It seems like I am seeing more and more efforts to overtly force people use an app, associate browsing with an account, and link their account with a real world identity (e.g. via phone number). This in turn makes the platforms less useful and more hostile to users and presumably at some point that will cause users to leave the system. It also feels like s…

Is Reddit social media? Are usenet newsgroups and IRC channels social media?

Yes.

And HN is social media too.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by coldpie »

arkades wrote: post #168
coldpie wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Look to Patreon God, this one baffles me. I feel like you could write that website and app with 5-10 skilled employees and a handful more for support and administrative overhead, skim your 10% of a good chunk of all Internet microtransactions, and retire early. Then they go and nuke all their goodwill trying to milk every cent they can out of the process[1]. What the fuck? Just make a product people want to use and…

There are an awful lot of Patreon users waiting for an alternative. If it’s so easy...

I tried one, called GameWisp, when a creator I support moved over there, but they skipped the "skilled employee" part. My subscription start date was rendered in their web app as "(null)", which doesn't inspire confidence in a payment processor. The creator shortly moved back to Patreon. Sigh.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by swarnie_ »

gomox wrote: post #156

A few years ago I deleted the reddit app because I felt I was spending too much time on it. I would then use the web based version when I felt like wasting some time. A month ago I ended up getting the app again because the web version became essentially unusable (they did some strange change where clicking on a link gave you the top three/five comments and then other posts from the same subreddit, wtf?). I wonder wh…

A lot of your issues are mixed by opting out of the beta layout (account preference setting) and using a plugin like RES.

Vanilla reddit is unusable.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by jermaustin1 »

xemoka wrote: post #171
jermaustin1 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Profits pay for owners (not just investors). If my company made $0 profit I’d be better off working at McDonald’s.

Sure, if your only goal is dollars and cents. People should have more, and better, goals than /just/ money. This obsession with only turning a buck is why we can’t have nice things that last.

Let me rephrase it then, if my company made $0 profit, I would be unable to afford my mortgage/bills/insurance, and would have to get a job, taking me away from my company.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by bcmo »

patcon wrote: post #169
grep_name wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This in turn makes the platforms less useful and more hostile to users and presumably at some point that will cause users to leave the system. People always seem to brush off this kind of comment when I see it discussed, usually the argument is "well, you're a software developer / superuser, normal people don't care about these things." It will be interesting to see where the breaking point actually is; I've always…

> It will be interesting to see where the breaking point actually is; I've always felt that platform users deserve a little more respect than that. I read your comment as a really strong case for platform co-operativism -- multi-stakeholder democracy for online platforms: not just owners making decisions, but users and maybe employees together with owners. Generally, democratic currents (whether government or corpora…

Crypto-social platforms promised to solve this -- but we've seen how that's gone.

Re: An account is now required to read Reddit comment threads?

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Post by XaspR8d »

dghughes wrote: post #94

If you have a reddit account and go to the site not logged in the site looks like trash. The articles seem worse than what you see when logged in. Similar to YouTube if you aren't logged in you see the trashiest videos on the "unlogged in" main page. I don't know if that's on purpose or it's just like that. But there seems to be a big difference in the quality depending on whether you are logged in or not. As for the…

> As for the reddit site itself I wonder what is the ratio of old.reddit viewers vs reddit viewers are.

I moderate a top 100 sub and if the built-in stats are to be believed, the recent breakdown is something like:

= Pageviews =

40% apps

28% old reddit

17% mobile reddit

15% new reddit

= Unique visits =

41% mobile reddit

27% new reddit

24% apps

8% old reddit

This doesn't really capture the ratio of contributors who use each (or perhaps, more interestingly, number of contributions per platform), but it's hard for me to guess that accurately since new-reddit detractors are a very vocal group.

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