The article once more reiterates the fact that Apple doesn't allow other browser engines. You cannot even fight, there is no future ;-) on iOS.
Firefox’s Fight for the Future of the Web
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#172Never forget that mozilla puts meta bulls * before solving problems. Their "spec hackers" decided to kill WebSQL, because of they feared that the available implementation was so HIGH quality that there wouldn't be any implementation diversity. Instead they gave us the indexedDB garbage dump. Firefox and Mozilla can go straight to oblivion for all I care.
No, because the spec did not actually specify enough to allow implementation diversity or even just the available implementation be updated to a new version that breaks backwards compatibility, and apparently none of the proposers cared enough about the spec to do the work of documenting the intended behavior. WebSQL implementations later proved to be insecure by not limiting the kind of queries allowed, and strictly…
It would have been the only piece of every browser that 'just works'.
But hey having a "spec" on top to all the available documentation is super necessary so that some bloke on twitter can put it into their bio.
Even HTML doesn't have specs anymore, because they don't matter. They are a means to get all browsers to be compatible not the goal.
And Safari and Chrome still ship with WebSQL, so I don't think that "security issue" is actually there.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, because the spec did not actually specify enough to allow implementation diversity or even just the available implementation be updated to a new version that breaks backwards compatibility, and apparently none of the proposers cared enough about the spec to do the work of documenting the intended behavior. WebSQL implementations later proved to be insecure by not limiting the kind of queries allowed, and strictly…
Just use the SQLite implementation and documentation everywhere. SQLite is arguably the most well tested piece of software on the planet. It would have been the only piece of every browser that 'just works'. But hey having a "spec" on top to all the available documentation is super necessary so that some bloke on twitter can put it into their bio. Even HTML doesn't have specs anymore, because they don't matter. They…
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#174The article once more reiterates the fact that Apple doesn't allow other browser engines. You cannot even fight, there is no future ;-) on iOS.
That's a convenient excuse on iOS, but Firefox is doing poorly on macOS, too, where no such restriction exists. According to the first statistics I found, Firefox is only about half as popular on the Mac as it in on Windows -- and it's still under 10% there, too. Privacy-compromising systems aren't winning today because people seek out systems that compromise their privacy. They're winning because these companies foc…
Wich is not much of a surprise. If you educate your customer base to use one browser, many won't switch. See the lawsuits against Microsoft because of IE.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just use the SQLite implementation and documentation everywhere. SQLite is arguably the most well tested piece of software on the planet. It would have been the only piece of every browser that 'just works'. But hey having a "spec" on top to all the available documentation is super necessary so that some bloke on twitter can put it into their bio. Even HTML doesn't have specs anymore, because they don't matter. They…
I'm not sure where you get the idea that HTML does not have a specification? It has a very extensive one.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a convenient excuse on iOS, but Firefox is doing poorly on macOS, too, where no such restriction exists. According to the first statistics I found, Firefox is only about half as popular on the Mac as it in on Windows -- and it's still under 10% there, too. Privacy-compromising systems aren't winning today because people seek out systems that compromise their privacy. They're winning because these companies foc…
I'm trying to think of a UI difference in chrome or safari that is meaningful, can't come up with one. Can you elaborate?
I very badly want to use Firefox as my main browser, and I have it installed and give it a go every now and then, but it’s just not all the way there yet for me.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a convenient excuse on iOS, but Firefox is doing poorly on macOS, too, where no such restriction exists. According to the first statistics I found, Firefox is only about half as popular on the Mac as it in on Windows -- and it's still under 10% there, too. Privacy-compromising systems aren't winning today because people seek out systems that compromise their privacy. They're winning because these companies foc…
> Privacy is important, but it's a feature, not a product. You still need to have a great product. Do you consider Firefox to be a less-than-great product? I use it as my main browser, from Windows 10. No complaints. I don't experience performance issues or UI issues. Chrome and Firefox are both solid browsers, on Windows at least. Perhaps Firefox for Mac is a weaker product, and loses to Safari 'fair and square' on…
Re: Firefox’s Fight for the Future of the Web
#178The article once more reiterates the fact that Apple doesn't allow other browser engines. You cannot even fight, there is no future ;-) on iOS.
That's a convenient excuse on iOS, but Firefox is doing poorly on macOS, too, where no such restriction exists. According to the first statistics I found, Firefox is only about half as popular on the Mac as it in on Windows -- and it's still under 10% there, too. Privacy-compromising systems aren't winning today because people seek out systems that compromise their privacy. They're winning because these companies foc…
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure where you get the idea that HTML does not have a specification? It has a very extensive one.
Its not a specification though, its a "living standard" a.k.a. we document the stuff we build as we go.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a convenient excuse on iOS, but Firefox is doing poorly on macOS, too, where no such restriction exists. According to the first statistics I found, Firefox is only about half as popular on the Mac as it in on Windows -- and it's still under 10% there, too. Privacy-compromising systems aren't winning today because people seek out systems that compromise their privacy. They're winning because these companies foc…
> Privacy is important, but it's a feature, not a product. You still need to have a great product. Do you consider Firefox to be a less-than-great product? I use it as my main browser, from Windows 10. No complaints. I don't experience performance issues or UI issues. Chrome and Firefox are both solid browsers, on Windows at least. Perhaps Firefox for Mac is a weaker product, and loses to Safari 'fair and square' on…
The current version of Firefox on macOS is a vast improvement over what Mozilla was shipping 6-12 months ago.
However, it still requires more RAM, doesn’t render as quickly and consumes more power than Safari, so there’s that. Also, Safari implemented anti-tracking features before Firefox did.