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Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Why should a GIGA factory be located near the airport and in a city ? A factory meant to mass produce something should be somewhere the land is cheap should not it be ?

If it is directly under the flight path the noise would make it less desirable and lower costs while the easy access to labor could possibly make up for the rest of the land costs.

Surely you're not worried about airplane noise in a car factory?

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Could build it on the old airport.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport#Pro... It was originally intended to replace both Schönefeld and Berlin Tegel Airport and become the single commercial airport serving Berlin and the surrounding State of Brandenburg, an area with a combined 6 million inhabitants. However, it is now planned that it will not replace any, with Schönefeld Airport currently being expanded due to rising passenger nu…

Crazy to think that Tesla will likely get a factory done in less than a year.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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It is great news for Berlin (and Brandenburg) as it will bring (big) money and attract talent. It might even attract people from Poland which is only an hour drive away and has a large pool of very talented and experienced engineers. So far besides maybe Siemens there wasn't too much industry here, which is more present in the south of the country. Being outside of the city center it won't contribute too much to gent…

> It might even attract people from Poland

I bet the Berlin people are thrilled.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Placing it near that airport may be the biggest risk Musk has ever taken.

It's not open yet, there's a chance it will never open. Might even be an investment opportunity: Swoop in and buy the whole mess once the German government decides it has thrown enough money into their bottomless pit.

The government will likely never do that, it's a prestige project so it will completed unless the entire government collapses.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Good strategy from Treelon overall. You'll have Tesla producing cars and employing thousands of workers in the U.S, China & Germany so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's. This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations and basically removed Customs tax from many other countries because Tesla can send the cars from three different locations. I just don't un…

> Here in Israel we don't have Teslas You might have missed this very recent news: > International car company Tesla published an ad seeking an operations manager in Israel, thus confirming that it plans to launch significant operations here. [1] [1] https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/tesla-to-launch...

Israel is so small that you can go anywhere on one charge.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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No competition for Tesla at all, only e-tron is selling here a bit and I think the model 3 and Y will crush it here. In terms of market size, well they have them in Jordan next to us which have the same population size and they don't have half the country working in the tech space as our GDP per capita is way higher.

Well, you probably not very interested in politics, if you was, you would know the answer...

If their neighbours really want a Tesla they'd have to get it from Israel.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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False comparison. Google users are voluntary. No one forces someone to use Google like the Government forces someone to pay tax.

> False comparison. Google users are voluntary. Not entirely. I can choose not to use Gmail or similar services. I can opt out of Google ads+tracking only because I'm technically adept enough. I can't (realistically) opt out of reCaptcha.

You can opt out of recaptcha by just boycotting the website which uses it.

But of course by "opt out" you mean to remain a user of a service but not the parts you don't like. Whether you are entitled to do this or not is still up for debate.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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I don't understand your post at all. "so that no one would stifle the company's path towards autonomous EV's." Who is "stifling"? And many companies work on autonomous cars. "This will produce pressure on Europe to ease for instance the AI regulations" What AI regulations in Europe? And what is Europe? The EU? "and basically removed Customs tax" This is not how custom taxes work. The EU is one of the biggest free tra…

EU regulations prohibit the turning angle of the wheel unlike the U.S. You simply can’t navigate on autopilot in the same way. Also the EU makes money from the auto companies in their jurisdiction and they don’t want a U.S auto company competing with them. Now that Tesla opens a factory in Germany “massages” things. The customs tax is in regards to countries/jurisdictions other than the ones with the Tesla factories.…

Lot of Tesla automation subcontractors come from Germany.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Near Berlin means the state of Brandenburg, which is famous for failed mega projects:

- Airport BER (still not open)

- Cargolifter airship factory (now used as a waterpark)

- Lausitzring (was supposed to host the F1, now hugely unprofitable)

- Semiconductor factory in Frankfurt/Oder (abandoned, only the building got finished)

I am not aware of one single project that materialized as planned. The odds are against Elon on this one...

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Well, but Berlin can't grow anymore... Building new apartments and houses basically cut in half because the rent control law.. To no one's surprise.. If telsa cant find the talent in Berlin. They will be out of lick because no one can't or want to move to Berlin...

What you said is just absolutely wrong. On every level. You are just repeating the propaganda of the landlord lobby. First off, the number of building permits did actually increase more twofold (by number of apartments) between 2012 and 2018 (the first rent control law took effect in 2015)[1]. Secondly, the rent control law doesn't apply to newly constructed buildings. So suggesting it would somehow decrease incentiv…

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/wohnungsnot-in-berlin-wir...

To no one's surprise

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