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Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#171

YouTube doesn't seem to be interested in hosting any content that isn't manufactured from a giant media corporation or just vapid clickbait entertainment. Just take a look at the trending tab to see what YouTube wants to promote: http://youtube.com/trending It's worth noting that "Trending" is curated by YouTube itself, and is not an algorithmically determined set of videos.

This is wrong. Trending is based on an actual mathematical formula based on the number of views per hour on the last 48h. Then on top of that you have some filtering who tries to downgrade clickbaity contents. In the US you also have human filtering. Curators can remove a video or ask the Trending algorithm to rate a video before it's normally rated but they can't add a video to an arbitrary position or change the ranking.

Clickbait entertainment is probably over represented but that's also a kind of video who receives a lot of view at the same time which what "Trending" means.

Source: used to work next to the Trend team.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#172

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I didn't talk about before YouTube existed–I'm talking about when YouTube became the defacto standard for online video. Independent video sites existed and flourished along side YouTube in the beginning. Sidenote: If we were having this conversation over beers at a meetup would you have said "Give me a break..." to me? Is this your conversational tone in person as well?

This is my HN tone because tons of people here love to play the “everything was better back in the day” card. Couple that with every mention of google bringing out people with huge axes to grind and it can become eye-roll city. Apologies for being so harsh.

It's okay. I understand that feeling and I'm probably guilty of it more than I realize it. I tried to say "miss" instead of "better", but even that phrasing implies I'd rather have the old and I'm not sure about that to be honest. This stuff is hard for sure. Hence why these conversations are good for beers after a meetup :)

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#173
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UU2hEImvdeIkYQC30AFCAt... gone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOUGXVFA2IQ gone

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUkAmJs3oeiKwutQ87ZV9U... gone

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUhlfPtuG7T6mnG7-iD-5J... nothing to see here

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUjT2SQBfqtPMdX99mf4Zs... what playlist?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UU2hEImvdeIkYQC30AFCAt... gone

but this could also be a concerted scheme to get subscribers / views / downloads

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#174

This is the consequence of monopolies. Before YouTube gobbled up the world there were great, niche video sites ran by fans of the coolest things. They are mostly gone now. It is sad. The web really used to be an adventure. I miss that part of the internet. You felt like you found these secret underground worlds where people were really into something. Now it’s different. Maybe what we have now it what is needed for c…

Of course back then video hosting was really expensive... Now I can find an instructional video on fixing my car and chopping down trees with ease.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#175

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Sorry, but having been there at the time, and looking at technical requirments ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21256674 ), I'm calling bogus. Online downloadable audio was barely tractable in 1999 or earlier, let alone streaming video. What was this golden age, what were the sites, and what was the usage? Streaming video is almost wholly 2004 and later, generally years later.

You are absolutely correct about the timeline! My experiences with independent video sites were mostley between 2000 and 2007 I'd guess. I do not think this contradicts any of my other statements, though. Looking back further before video, we had web-rings which allowed for finding some of the best and worst sites on a subject :) I can't be the only card carrying member of the HTML Writers Guild here, can I?

Thanks.

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Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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Start with understanding Unix file permission system and the meaning of /etc/services. It will snowball from there. You need to be proficient in Unix operating systems to have a knowledge base.

With all due respect, the question was about more modern times. I feel like this was better advice in the 90s and early 2000s. It's not like knowing those things is bad, I just don't know how applicable it is now. Today the scope is far too big and there are far too many different hacking disciplines now. The advice above was probably more suited to a time when people used to be granted shell access to university com…

The cloud is someone else's Unix computer.

Understanding permissions leads to understanding of privilege escalation, interprocess communication, /proc, logging, avoiding logging, understanding /etc... Yep, that's where I would start.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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If you read the comments in the Reddit thread, this is clickbait fear-mongering. It's a sad state of affairs when Reddit users are savvier than HN users.

Yes. We should all trust anonymous strangers on the internet over... anonymous... Strangers... On the internet...

I mean, you could spend a minute reading both sets of commenters. One is well-informed and reasonable, the other is an angry mob carrying pitchforks.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

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If you have, let's say, a billion users, each of which can report stuff, and have some algorithm that weeds out 90% of bogus reports, how big would your customer support team need to be to handle the remaining 10% in a reasonable time span?

That's a side effect of too much centralization. Grocery stores handle billions of customers daily and have no problem processing even 10% of them complaining about something, because there's lots of stores and each handles complaints themselves. Customer support scales linearly with the scale of the sector. You could say it's one of the negative side effects of globalization - instead of small market entities servin…

Yes exactly. A good example of this in a centralised system however, is Indian Railways.

They have a billion customers and still have a simple phone number, a mobile app and physical counters for customer service.

Re: YouTube is taking down educational hacking videos

#180

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With all due respect, the question was about more modern times. I feel like this was better advice in the 90s and early 2000s. It's not like knowing those things is bad, I just don't know how applicable it is now. Today the scope is far too big and there are far too many different hacking disciplines now. The advice above was probably more suited to a time when people used to be granted shell access to university com…

The cloud is someone else's Unix computer. Understanding permissions leads to understanding of privilege escalation, interprocess communication, /proc, logging, avoiding logging, understanding /etc... Yep, that's where I would start.

You’re also just assuming everyone is running Linux I guess ?
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