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Forever 21, Which Helped Popularize Fast Fashion, to File for Bankruptcy

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My girlfriend worked as a weaving technician and she said the H&M stuff got much worse over the past decade and subjectively it is true. The stuff literally disintegrates if you have it in the drier to often. Sadly enough this is also true for the men’s wear. I certainly try to spend a little more and get quality stuff. Second hand stores can also be great because you can find great quality stuff that feels better af…

I have similar experiences with H&M, and a lot of other cheap basically colored shirts. It’ll feel great at first. Then I’ll leave it in the dryer for a few minutes too long, and the fit completely changes while the material looks degraded. I’m more than happy to spend $30+ on a simple shirt that won’t change its fit after a few cleanings, but struggle to find a consistent brand. If anyone has recommendations, please…

Shirts: Brooks Brothers. Get the no-iron ones. Supposedly ~$98.00/each but usually available at ~$200 for four of them.

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H&M is the Ikea of clothes.

This is a good analogy for multiple reasons: Both Ikea and H&M hit a variety of price points and tend to have quality commensurate with them. I’ve bought a $30 dresser at Ikea and $7 T-shirts at H&M, and both were about as durable as you might imagine. I’ve also bought a $200 dresser at Ikea and a $100 coat at H&M, and they’ve held up as well as comparable products twice their price.

They are also both Swedish!

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>That's a rather weird characterization in my opinion... H&M stores in roughly their current form have been around a lot longer than Forever 21. H&M is also 4-5 times the size of Forever 21 by revenue. My apologies. Faulty assumption on my part.

H&M is very European (Swedish), I think they’ve only been in the states for less than a decade. I’m more of a C&A person myself, H&M always struck me as too urban (in Switzerland at least).

I’m not sure how long H&M has had a solid foothold in the US. At most 15 years, but possibly your estimate. They have had more stores than Forever 21 in the US for a few years now though.

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Winter is coming so if you're in the market for light-weight fleeces I'd recommend the Fjallraven Keb fleece ( http://bit.ly/2os5DNh ) and the Patagonia TechFace ( http://bit.ly/2osecHV ). REI stocks a number of more-or-less equally high-quality options ( http://bit.ly/2orY7C2 ) If you're bored of Dockers, I'd suggest grabbing a pair of ABCs from Lululemon, in brown ( http://bit.ly/2oAN4qr ) and black ( http://bit.ly…

If you like the ABC pant, try the Rhone commuter.

Just ordered. They better be good!

Re: Forever 21, Which Helped Popularize Fast Fashion, to File for Bankruptcy

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Good. The only fast fashion brand I truly like is uniqlo, but forever 21 was always at the bottom of my list. All of their clothing had prints that looked like it came out of a machine learning algo that wasn't trained properly. I dont understand how they afforded to open these giant stores in the hottest malls. A fun game that I played with friends is to go into f21, try on clothes and see who can assemble the most…

Uniqlo is not fast fashion, apart from T-shirt prints they have same styles every year.

They were on the wikipedia page, so I went off that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_fashion#List_of_fast_fash...

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H&M is much, much bigger than Forever 21. Forever 21 barely exists out side of North America, but H&M can be found everywhere. I mean everywhere. That may be a factor in how cheap they can be - The scale of the business.

Watch this https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3162938/

Please don't post the same comment multiple times. It lowers the signal-noise ratio.

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It's cheap "if your time is free", it is nice being able to depend on your clothes.

What are you talking about? It doesn't take any more time to buy 2 shirts than to buy 1 shirt. Maybe it adds an extra 5 seconds at the cash register, but that's not significant.

It is true buying clothes in bulk would never have entered my mind. One thing stand I have really bad experience with clothes, they break in the most awkard times, cheap clothes does that all the time in my experience. I still have my very high quality jacket I bought in 1995, it takes a beating holds up and is easily fixed.

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What are you talking about? It doesn't take any more time to buy 2 shirts than to buy 1 shirt. Maybe it adds an extra 5 seconds at the cash register, but that's not significant.

It is true buying clothes in bulk would never have entered my mind. One thing stand I have really bad experience with clothes, they break in the most awkard times, cheap clothes does that all the time in my experience. I still have my very high quality jacket I bought in 1995, it takes a beating holds up and is easily fixed.

Where are you getting your clothes? I have some pretty cheap shirts and I've never had one "break in the most awkward time". They just start developing holes, especially on the collar.
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