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Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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I've had great luck with Scruff, and have had friends who have done well with bumble

A bit presumptuous to assume the OP is a gay male, no?

how does giving an anecdote about a dating app experience presume anything about the OP?

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I think it's a fatal flaw in the dating site business model, to be honest. Their incentive is for you to stay on the site for as long as possible. If you could find a relationship quickly and then they would leave the site quickly. This would reduce the amount of ad and subscription revenue, in addition to reducing the size of the pool of "potential matches", discouraging those who have more trouble finding someone.

It would be nice to have a dating site where potential matches were verified, including height, weight, and photo. Perhaps have them visit a kiosk in a participating business to get a photo taken from a standard angle (no "myspace" angles) along with a verified height and weight (stand on a scale!)

potential matches were verified, including height, weight

I am happily married now (met my wife through a mutual friend, the old fashioned way) so my experience of online dating may be obsolete but women on dating sites tend to be very specific about their partner’s height. And income, and what car he drives and a big shopping list of mainly physical and materialistic traits. If you could verify all of that you might be onto a viable business.

How you attract the men to your platform is up to you...

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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It is not part of any standard. + is a valid email address character and is not special in any way.

It's specified in RFC5233 [0], by "standard" I meant codified in RFC form, like everything else we treat as open internet "standards". [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5233

RFC 5223 uses + as an example. It doesn't even specify whether the detail part comes before or after the user part.

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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It would be nice to have a dating site where potential matches were verified, including height, weight, and photo. Perhaps have them visit a kiosk in a participating business to get a photo taken from a standard angle (no "myspace" angles) along with a verified height and weight (stand on a scale!)

Is people misrepresenting themselves something you encounter frequently? Seems like a short sighted move.

There was a really good OkCupid blog post that analyzed their member profiles and found that men that were 5’10” and 5’11” would round up to 6’. It was a pretty significant portion of them, too.

Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says

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I think it's a fatal flaw in the dating site business model, to be honest. Their incentive is for you to stay on the site for as long as possible. If you could find a relationship quickly and then they would leave the site quickly. This would reduce the amount of ad and subscription revenue, in addition to reducing the size of the pool of "potential matches", discouraging those who have more trouble finding someone.

Okcuipd (and Sparknotes!) co-founder Christian Rudder wrote an article entitled "Why You Should Never Pay For Online Dating" saying exactly that. When Match Group acquired them, they took it down. I found a mirror, though. https://web.archive.org/web/20190429100515/https://static.iz...

Excellent article.

One trick I think that was missed though? :

> eHarmony seems to do quite a bit better than Match, claiming in their ads to marry off 236 people a day

That doesn't mean those people marry people they meet through eHarmony, nor that they people used eHarmony at the time they found their maate etc?

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A bit presumptuous to assume the OP is a gay male, no?

how does giving an anecdote about a dating app experience presume anything about the OP?

The OP was asking for dating app recommendations...I thought it was strange for someone to reply back with a positive review of a gay hookup app for men without knowing the gender or sexual orientation of the person asking for the recommendation when there are plenty of dating apps that cater to all people. shrug

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It would be nice to have a dating site where potential matches were verified, including height, weight, and photo. Perhaps have them visit a kiosk in a participating business to get a photo taken from a standard angle (no "myspace" angles) along with a verified height and weight (stand on a scale!)

People wanting to flatter themselves? The nerve. Get off your high horse.

There’s a huge difference in flattering yourself and exaggerating to the point of misrepresentation.

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It is not part of any standard. + is a valid email address character and is not special in any way.

It's specified in RFC5233 [0], by "standard" I meant codified in RFC form, like everything else we treat as open internet "standards". [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5233

> On email systems that allow for 'subaddressing' or 'detailed addressing' (e.g., "ken+sieve@example.org"),

This rfc merely acknowledges that some systems do this. It doesn't say the must or even should.

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I see you're getting downvoted, which is funny because I've proposed the same idea on HN a few times and a lot of people thought it was a good idea. Maybe the weight thing isn't necessary with everything else in play, but otherwise I think this is something that should be tried. Yet nobody has bitten. Perhaps that means it's either not viable or of interest to investors.

Perhaps the concept of outsourcing the vetting of potential mates' physical characteristics strikes folks as disturbing.

And yet it's been pretty common for a long time and still is in a lot of cultures - mostly for traits like income/wealth and family though. Matchmaking and forced marriages are still very much a thing.

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The goal of any consultancy should be to get your clients to the point where they no longer need you.

[Cough] Gov't consulting companies would like a word.

Well I did say "should". :/

Also there's a difference between specialist consultancies and contract labour hire. I'd say most government contractors fall into the latter camp.

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