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Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by cdumler »

chubbyrabbit wrote: post #147
godelski wrote: post #126

Reading the linked Vice article >"Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) often involved complex flight patterns and advanced maneuvering, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics, and thermodynamics.” - Walker > Republican representative Mark Walker of North Carolina This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? Can we call…

> This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? I see nothing stupid with using quantum mechanics and nuclear science in this context. > Can we call out politicians for just throwing in words that they don't know what they mean? I'm sure they know what those words mean on a surface level. They don't really need to understand them beyond that point, it's not their job.

I do. When you say this is an "unidentified aerial phenomena" or an "unidentified flying objects," that means it's unidentified. As in: we do not know what we are looking at. You don't get to say, "well, we don't know what this is; therefore, it must be aliens." You say, "We don't know what this is. Until we have more information, there is no conclusion to make." Nothing more. Full stop. The end. And, certainly not technobabble.

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Post by joshschreuder »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #152

What I do consistently see uniting all of these articles is Tom Delonge and TTSA, which has a big “Invest” button up at the top of their website. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to marketing in 2019. Looks like Tom Delonge is operating some kind of quirky investment scam. Next up, a Blink 182 reunion tour.

blink-182 has been reunited since 2009, though without DeLonge since 2015.

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Post by dragonwriter »

Pyxl101 wrote: post #61
lamontcg wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level? If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

> If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level?

Because (1) need to know, and (2) fueling conspiracy theories to keep an appropriate background level helps when you want to dismiss actual conspiracy as a conspiracy theory, which the government periodically needs to do, and people can play their role in that best when they believe what they are saying.

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Post by hinkley »

ALittleLight wrote: post #137
therein wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that would have prevented a lot of misunderstandings but Navy operates this way all the time. They prefer a somewhat "blinded" subject.

The subject would still be blinded though. You could tell them after the fact. Then you get the real experience of a pilot encountering your system plus you get the added benefit that they won't tell people about the "UFO" they saw.

But what about the next experiment?

How are you going to keep the other pilots from figuring out they're test subjects?

Especially if any word about the experiment got out. Swearing another pilot to secrecy versus letting them think you're nuts for the rest of your lives, I think they're gonna pick door #1.

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Post by elif »

godelski wrote: post #126

Reading the linked Vice article >"Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena) often involved complex flight patterns and advanced maneuvering, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics, and thermodynamics.” - Walker > Republican representative Mark Walker of North Carolina This is laughably stupid. QM and nuclear science? Can we call…

If you're going to call his use of those terms incorrect, can you explain a craft travelling supersonic without jets or rockets, leaving no emissions, utilizing no airfoils, consistent with our understanding of physics?

Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Post by [deleted] »

tclancy wrote: post #145
erik_landerholm wrote: post #100

I feel like a lot of commenters on here must first be hearing of this or have not even looked into the tic-tac case even a small amount. You have a top gun pilot and his WSO on record saying they saw it visually along with a huge underwater craft. It moved in ways that nothing using conventional propulsion can. Hovering for example is extremely difficult, made all the harder with no wings, blades or visible exhaust.…

>he will be on joe Rogan soon. Well, shut my mouth.

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Post by thelittleone »

therein wrote: post #74
Pyxl101 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level? If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

I agree that would have prevented a lot of misunderstandings but Navy operates this way all the time. They prefer a somewhat "blinded" subject.

Say this was some new aircraft or FLIR spoofing secret test and the US knows that (insert adversary country) intelligence is aware of the program. How would seeing this video affect the adversary?

I guess what I'm saying is (whether real or fake) this could be a controlled leak for strategic benefit.

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Post by erik_landerholm »

cronix wrote: post #130
erik_landerholm wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you explain the pilots who said they saw it visually for 5 minutes?

And on other radar systems within the strike carrier group. The Nimitz event was tracked on multiple systems of varying technologies, for multiple days, not just the planes. FLIR was just one piece of the puzzle, of which video was released.

Exactly. I understand skepticism when it comes to ufos, I’m of the belief most of the reports are nonsense and/or the ramblings of the mentally ill, attention seeking, etc. but, I feel like people should at least have read or listened to the pilots to have an opinion on this one.

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Post by kfrzcode »

perl4ever wrote: post #58
burnte wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to be the pedant, but UFO really does just mean unidentified flying object. Everything is a UFO before you know what it is, so this isn't even a lie.

Even if you know what it is, if you refuse to identify it, and you're the only one who can, then it's unidentified as far as everyone else is concerned.

The truth is out there... and it's relative to context

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Post by Reedx »

andrewstuart wrote: post #133

Ever since the 1970's mysterious UFO and bigfoot style videos have turned up. Always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS distant, blurry, out of focus and "from an authoritative source". This is precisely the same as the 1970s. Leonard Nimoy knew what was going on "In Search Of UFOs": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVFWJDPcPnk

"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem." -Mitch Hedberg
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