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Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by olah_1 » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 1:33 PM UTC

psv1 wrote: post #162

new_here wrote: post #160

Interesting to see Apple starting to move into the web app product space (aside from iCloud, of course). Must say though that performance feels a bit sluggish (esp. hover states) on a Macbook Pro (tested in Firefox, Chrome and Safari). Results of a Lighthouse audit (London): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jaf3gmgo0tpanba/Screenshot%202019-...

Are any of the iCloud web apps viable at all? Each time I've tried using them the performance has been terribly slow.

iCloud web apps have been completely abandoned. A bug with adding contact photos has existed for like 15 years.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 1:49 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #144

TimTheTinker wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not surprising. Ember was forked from SproutCore which was designed to mimic the Cocoa API. Ember’s model/view binding and event model still closely resembles Cocoa’s, as far as I know.

Um, I thought Ember was SproutCore 2.0, so isn't this more of a rename rather than a fork?

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Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by pier25 » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:03 PM UTC

new_here wrote: post #160

Interesting to see Apple starting to move into the web app product space (aside from iCloud, of course). Must say though that performance feels a bit sluggish (esp. hover states) on a Macbook Pro (tested in Firefox, Chrome and Safari). Results of a Lighthouse audit (London): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jaf3gmgo0tpanba/Screenshot%202019-...

Not surprising as they are using Ember (one of the slowest front end frameworks), Moment (super heavy date library), and they don't even minify their code...

https://js-cdn.music.apple.com/musickit/v2/components/musick...

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by dbbk » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:10 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #173

new_here wrote: post #160

Interesting to see Apple starting to move into the web app product space (aside from iCloud, of course). Must say though that performance feels a bit sluggish (esp. hover states) on a Macbook Pro (tested in Firefox, Chrome and Safari). Results of a Lighthouse audit (London): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jaf3gmgo0tpanba/Screenshot%202019-...

Not surprising as they are using Ember (one of the slowest front end frameworks), Moment (super heavy date library), and they don't even minify their code... https://js-cdn.music.apple.com/musickit/v2/components/musick...

> one of the slowest front end frameworks

What metric are you referring to here?

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by pier25 » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:11 PM UTC

kevin2r wrote: post #6

chrischen wrote: post #5

I’m curious what framework Apple uses for web now. Last I checked (a week ago) icloud.com is still implemented with SproutCore.

Looks like Ember for the most part. Look at the code, it's not minified, yet...

Indeed: https://js-cdn.music.apple.com/musickit/v2/components/musick...

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by dbbk » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:13 PM UTC

bovermyer wrote: post #170

bashwizard wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially on the phone where most people use Spotify. Oh wait...

I almost never use Spotify on my phone. The one exception is when I needed to handle the music for my wedding (piped it through some massive bluetooth speakers).

I think you must recognise that you're an outlier.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by dbbk » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:15 PM UTC

jccalhoun wrote: post #169

Interesting that Beats 1 doesn't seem to be listed in the radio section. They hyped it so much and it has just faded away.

It's a beta, live radio is forthcoming apparently.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by thekyle » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:15 PM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #87

Apple finally comes out with something Spotify and Google have had for years... Good job.

Well Google is certainly trying their hardest to give Apple the upper hand by discontinuing Google Play Music in favor of YouTube Music. I don't know a single person who actually likes the new YouTube Music.

I ended up switching to Spotify as a result.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by dbbk » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:17 PM UTC

ktzar wrote: post #148

So, Apple is launching an offering on par with Google's seven years later. Is that what we call innovation?

Can you point to anyone calling this innovative? It's just nice to have. Your comment is the only one on Hacker News with that word.

Re: Apple Music Web Client

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Post by pier25 » Fri, Sep 06, 2019, 2:25 PM UTC

vonseel wrote: post #149

ktzar wrote: post #148

So, Apple is launching an offering on par with Google's seven years later. Is that what we call innovation?

People actually use Google Music? Everyone I know who listens to music via Google-owned properties uses Youtube (free). Others use Spotify, Apple Music, and Pandora, in that order of popularity.

I do use Google Play Music. I have minor gripes but in general I like it. You can upload your music and sync it in all your devices.

Google is going to kill it and transfer its users/content/playlists to Youtube Music. Not sure what I'm going to do after that happens.