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Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by awolf » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 5:20 PM UTC

code_duck wrote: post #155

awolf wrote: post #52

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Most plant-derrived protein sources have an incomplete profile of amino acids. Humans have eight essential amino acids (amino acids that we must get from the diet as we cannot synthesize them) that are plentiful in animal sources and lacking to various degrees in plant sources. Plant sources of protein, even when combined to provide all the essential amino acids, are too heavy in carbohydrate, irritate the gut, and s…

So you combine beans and grains. That is how most of humanity exists, after all. I think the last part of your comment is patently untrue. The American Dietetic Association released a position paper stating that they believe vegetarian and vegan diets are perfectly healthy and sustainable. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12826028

Our knowledge of health is ever-changing. The ADA has been wrong before and will be wrong again. When this happens the ADA will simply revise its position. This is to be expected.

This research has been around for 11 years and to my knowledge has gone unchallenged and mostly ignored:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10489816

Just like the research showing that diabetic complications could be averted via normalizing blood sugars in the 1970’s or that gluten could actually be an allergen and that celiac disease is a real condition in the 1990’s.

As a vegetarian or vegan you can definitely survive, but you won't thrive.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by rdl » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 5:38 PM UTC

jasonkester wrote: post #164

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Definitely agree that some kind of sport which is fun and requires and rewards fitness is the way to go. Rock climbing is great, but biking, hiking, kayaking, etc. would all work as well. SCUBA sort of works, but isn't really strenuous enough.

Biking would also work, since performance is measurable. Though probably not to the same degree as climbing. Hiking and Kayaking are great, but probably wouldn't fit the World of Warcraft-esque requirement for measurable improvements to simulate leveling up. SCUBA has measurable goals, but alas they mostly just measure how much money you've spent on SCUBA diving instruction. (I've spent enough to get myself to Rescue…

My umfriend wants to get into rock climbing, so I will probably join her -- is there a good introduction to rock climbing for hackers?

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by rdl » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 5:40 PM UTC

krschultz wrote: post #163

rdl wrote: post #154

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Definitely agree that some kind of sport which is fun and requires and rewards fitness is the way to go. Rock climbing is great, but biking, hiking, kayaking, etc. would all work as well. SCUBA sort of works, but isn't really strenuous enough.

Really? I think SCUBA can be one of the most exhausting. You work your legs hard if there is a current. Not a cheap sport you can do anytime you want though.

If you're working your legs that hard, you're going to have a short dive. With jet fins, even in "strong" currents, exercise has never been my limiting factor -- just concern that I'd be using up my air too quickly for a good dive. In really strong currents (Atlantic wrecks), you use lines and otherwise try to minimize current swimming).

It's not zero energy, but I get more exercise loading and unloading cylinders on the boat than I do actually diving.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by jasonkester » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 5:54 PM UTC

rdl wrote: post #172

jasonkester wrote: post #164

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Biking would also work, since performance is measurable. Though probably not to the same degree as climbing. Hiking and Kayaking are great, but probably wouldn't fit the World of Warcraft-esque requirement for measurable improvements to simulate leveling up. SCUBA has measurable goals, but alas they mostly just measure how much money you've spent on SCUBA diving instruction. (I've spent enough to get myself to Rescue…

My umfriend wants to get into rock climbing, so I will probably join her -- is there a good introduction to rock climbing for hackers?

Chances are your town has a climbing gym (or a half dozen of them). They'll have a section of low walls over big fat pads that you can play on without ropes (known as bouldering, and actually more popular than roped climbing in places). They'll also rent you a pair of rock shoes and a chalk bag. You can just turn up and they'll hook you up with everything you need to try it out.

Come back with a friend when they're not busy and get them to teach you how to tie knots and stop each other from hitting the ground when you fall, then give toproping a try.

While you're there, notice that most people around you aren't taking it too seriously, and are mostly there to socialize. Talk to some of them and you'll quickly find yourself invited out on the rock next weekend.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by vaksel » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 6:00 PM UTC

sandGorgon wrote: post #133

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workout at home just get a pull up bar and some weights and do it at home. You'll save like an extra hour in the process by not having to go to/from the gym.

on similar lines - P90X works great.

yeah that's what I use

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by vaksel » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 6:03 PM UTC

freakwit wrote: post #122

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workout at home just get a pull up bar and some weights and do it at home. You'll save like an extra hour in the process by not having to go to/from the gym.

got any recommendations for a pull up bar?

they are all more or less the same, just make sure you get one that goes inside the door frame that doesn't require drilling.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 6:12 PM UTC

phjohnst wrote: post #74

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Sure, if you like eating microwaved mush

Try stews, chilis, etc. Also, homemade chicken stock is one of my favourite things (boil a chicken carcass from the butcher with a halved onion, roughly chopped carrot, celery, some herbs, a little salt and pepper, bit of garlic, for a bit over an hour) and is super easy to do, freeze and then use as a base in a ton of recipes, or even just add some pasta and you've got a rough and ready chicken soup. Cooking need no…

Good idea is to package it in ziploc bags or small plastic containers. That way you don't have to defrost the entire pot if you just want to make a few cups of soup.

protip: homemade chicken stock makes an excellent base for risotto milanese!

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 6:17 PM UTC

lukeschlather wrote: post #56

jules wrote: post #42

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Like? I've never eaten a tasty microwaved meal.

Then use the range. Though the microwave is a misunderstood device. It's fantastic at defrosting frozen items, but it should usually be an intermediate step used to ensure that thawed items are at room temperature when they go into the pan. It's also fantastic at a variety of simple one-step things. Melting butter, baking potatoes, melting cheese, and other things like that. Used properly, it speeds up and even impro…

I agree with what you said, but in a pinch the microwave can be quite versatile.

I made excellent scrambled eggs with ham and goat cheese a week ago in the microwave because that's all that was available. Takes some care to not have it turn into a frittata, but otherwise easy to do.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by code_duck » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 6:50 PM UTC

awolf wrote: post #171

code_duck wrote: post #155

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So you combine beans and grains. That is how most of humanity exists, after all. I think the last part of your comment is patently untrue. The American Dietetic Association released a position paper stating that they believe vegetarian and vegan diets are perfectly healthy and sustainable. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12826028

Our knowledge of health is ever-changing. The ADA has been wrong before and will be wrong again. When this happens the ADA will simply revise its position. This is to be expected. This research has been around for 11 years and to my knowledge has gone unchallenged and mostly ignored: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10489816 Just like the research showing that diabetic complications could be averted via normalizing…

Some text about wheat hardly proves your assertions. That doesn't address how beans, nuts, etc. supposedly drain you of vitamins.

Hundreds of millions of people are perfectly healthy eating vegetarian diets. You should turn your attention to people eating the typical American diet... surely they need it more than people who eat big handfuls of vegetables all day.

Re: Pizza And Ramen Are Hurting Your Startup

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Post by awolf » Thu, Jan 06, 2011, 7:25 PM UTC

code_duck wrote: post #179

awolf wrote: post #171

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Our knowledge of health is ever-changing. The ADA has been wrong before and will be wrong again. When this happens the ADA will simply revise its position. This is to be expected. This research has been around for 11 years and to my knowledge has gone unchallenged and mostly ignored: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10489816 Just like the research showing that diabetic complications could be averted via normalizing…

Some text about wheat hardly proves your assertions. That doesn't address how beans, nuts, etc. supposedly drain you of vitamins. Hundreds of millions of people are perfectly healthy eating vegetarian diets. You should turn your attention to people eating the typical American diet... surely they need it more than people who eat big handfuls of vegetables all day.

That's definitely more than a "text about wheat". I encourage you to read some of it. You'll find answers to your questions about legumes and nuts as well (anti-nutrient density is higher in these types of foods over the rest of vegetables).