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Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by icebraining »

callahad wrote: post #163
icebraining wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will Preview be guaranteed to support extensions before Firefox for Android goes EOL?

I can't make any specific commitment, but there's a lot of time between now and Firefox for Android going EOL (and we haven't committed to specific timing for that, either.) However, we do have concrete plans for supporting adblocking as a built-in feature in the near future ( https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/96 ), which should make Preview more palatable to folks who rely on add-ons for that, even if o…

Thanks for replying; I'm sad that Mozilla hasn't committed to that, it'd be helpful to squelch the FUD.

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by bovine3dom »

sp332 wrote: post #170
bovine3dom wrote: post #168

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FWIW, there are quite a few things that haven't been added to the API, most importantly the ability to accept key events from pages where our content script isn't running. In fact, very little has been added that has made our life easier (the main one being the search API) since we first started developing Tridactyl. Features have actually been taken away from us - notably the ability to operate on PDFs. Not to detra…

Thanks for the update. It's been a long time since I've seen this brought up here.

I should probably add that the containers API is really cool and a major thing that was added. I use it all the time from Tridactyl.

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by bzbarsky »

vermilingua wrote: post #9
whatshisface wrote: post #5

> Local files can no longer access other files in the same directory. What impact will this have on web development without a web server? It sounds like you won't be able to load CSS or JS.

Worse comes to worst it’ll be a toggleable flag, but it is still annoying.

It's a toggleable flag, yes. The "privacy.file_unique_origin" preference controls the behavior.

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by [deleted] »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #47

This marks the last Android release with extensions/add-on support. There will not be a 69 release of this edition of Firefox for Android ("Fennec"). The new remake of the mobile browser ("Fenix") does not have extensions support and it is on an indefinite and easily ignorable backlog. It is explicitly not being worked on this quarter. At the end of this quarter is the scheduled release of Firefox 69. Unless there's…

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Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by wtallis »

BiosElement wrote: post #161
JeremyNT wrote: post #129

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> This reads like FUD to me. The dev team know how important extensions are to their users. Just because they know how important it is doesn't mean they care . I'm sure Google also knew how important ad blocking was to many Chrome users when they decided to remove that functionality from their browser, too.

uBlock seems to work just fine, not sure why you're claiming they removed it.

He's not claiming that they removed it. He's referring to the fact that Google announced their intention to remove the APIs that uBlock relies on. They haven't followed through with the plan yet, but neither have they completely backtracked. See eg. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/05/29/google-still-plans-... and reports that they'll continue to provide that functionality only to enterprise users: https://9to5google.com/2019/05/29/chrome-ad-blocking-enterpr...

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by nicoburns »

swinglock wrote: post #91
StavrosK wrote: post #55

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Wait what? Extensions are the biggest reason I'm using Firefox on my mobile and the only way I got people to switch to it. How can they just be removing them for any period of time?

Extensions is the ONLY reason to use Firefox on Android. It's not good browser compared to Chrome on slower Android phones, apart from being customizable. To me it's even the single biggest reason to use Android over iOS as there's no full featured browser on iOS.

To be fair, the new Firefox Preview (aka fenix) seems to go a long way towards changing that. I agree that they damn well better release with extension support (and I think they will), but it's pretty reasonable to get the core browser stable first.

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by callahad »

kevin_b_er wrote: post #169
snek wrote: post #115

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This is a lot of FUD. Making a browser is hard, and making a modular browser is harder. It's clearly on their list of things to do, but it's behind all the other "making a browser" things.

They've made no commitment to extensions, but clearly are targeting this new replacement browser for version 69 in a few months. What they haven't done is given a clear statement. Nothing about if their replacement is going to drop extension support. But every response from Mozilla has been a sidestep and that I cannot overlook.

> clearly are targeting this new replacement browser for version 69 in a few months.

That is incorrect, and stems from a misunderstanding of our release model.

> What they haven't done is given a clear statement.

The clearest statement is this dev-platform post from April, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform..., which includes a link to a much more detailed project planning document.

> Nothing about if their replacement is going to drop extension support.

That's because we are not yet ready to make public commitments. Honest. We're building the app and its underlying embedding library (GeckoView) from scratch, and as with all new greenfield projects, we're still working on getting the foundation right. It's simply too early to forecast how that specific design and development work will play out.

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by YinLuck- »

tvanantwerp wrote: post #90
kevin_b_er wrote: post #47

This marks the last Android release with extensions/add-on support. There will not be a 69 release of this edition of Firefox for Android ("Fennec"). The new remake of the mobile browser ("Fenix") does not have extensions support and it is on an indefinite and easily ignorable backlog. It is explicitly not being worked on this quarter. At the end of this quarter is the scheduled release of Firefox 69. Unless there's…

Without uBlock Origin on mobile Firefox, I guess I'll just stop visiting websites on mobile devices entirely. They're unusable without ad blocking.

iphone + safari

Re: Firefox 68.0

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Post by agumonkey »

dblohm7 wrote: post #135
agumonkey wrote: post #30

Not sure if placebo but firefox nightly 70 is a looot more snappier than 69. Now I regret chrome almost not at all. Thanks for the hard work to all involved.

That's placebo -- Nightly is built from our trunk. The only thing that changes between Nightly 69 and Nightly 70 is a version bump.

no it's not something is definitely different somewhere, maybe a different config/default or reset, everything is snappier and my cpu is reaching 95+ degC while it never reached 80 before 70.

Or maybe it's a different rendering library / os / gpu driver interaction.

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